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Are black people genetically less intelligent than white people?

I was never racist until I met DeepDarkness, now I can't ever look at blacks the same again. Fucking niggers.

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I think that's a well documented self evident truth.

It's to the west the black Africans point their begging bowls in times of crisis, which is pretty well a permanent feature.

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This is where HOW THE QUESTION and ANSWER ARE PHRASED is important.

Every group of people is made up of a mix of geniuses and retards.

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- 1 - Intelligence is a function of physiological factors, some, but not all, of which are identifiable and measurable This is why damage in utero can have such dramatic effects, including microcephaly, mental retardations, etc. It is also why malnutrition, chemical and physical trauma can have such marked effects on intelligence.

Importantly, while there are easily identified ways to lower intelligence, there are no known reliable ways to raise the biological basis of intelligence. Learning is DIFFERENT from becoming smarter.

- 2 - Intelligence as measured and expressed as IQ has a verified genetic component. For example many forms of mental retardation (Downs Syndrome, etc.) are known to lower intelligence. By the same token, high intelligence is also heritable.

A--- This means that genes for high and low intelligence are in gene pools, just as genes for short and tall stature, skin color, etc. are in gene pools. That means some gene pools have genes for more intelligent people than other gene pools.

- 3 - Groups do not have IQs. Only individuals have IQs. IQ scores can, however be averaged across a group.

Averages for racial gene pools in the US are: (these numbers vary by source, but not by more than 2-4 points)

Jewish------------------------------112

East Asian--------------------------105

White--------------------------------97

Indian-------------------------------90

Hispanic-----------------------------89

SE Asians---------------------------87

Black--------------------------------85

North Africans----------------------84

South Asians-(& Middle East)-----84

Subsaharan Africans---------------70

- 4 - The average IQ of members of a gene pool do not indicate whether there are particularly smart or stupid people in the gene pool. This is because how broad or narrow the distribution is matters, as does which way the bell curve leans.

Populations with an average IQ of 100 could be:

- a - 10 people with an IQ of 100

- b - 2 people with IQs of 150, and 5 people with IQs of 100, and 3 people with IQs of 67

- c - 1 person with an IQ of 40, and 5 people with IQs of 100, and 4 people with IQs of 115

Populations with an average IQ of 120 could be:

- d - 10 people with an IQ of 120

- e - 2 people with IQs of 150, and 5 people with an IQ of 120, and 3 people with IQs of 100

- f - 2 people with IQs of 40, and 8 people with IQs of 140

NOTE: Population f (120 ave. IQ) has more severely mentally retarded people than the other populations, including the populations with 100 average IQ.

NOTE: Populations b and e have the same number of geniuses.

B--- This means that knowing the average IQ of a gene pool does not help anyone predict whether any particular person in that gene pool is likely to be a genius or mentally retarded.

- 5 - The differences in average IQ between Jewish Americans (112) and Black Americans (85) reflects aggregate differences and DOES NOT PREDICT WHETHER ANY PARTICULAR JEW OR BLACK PERSON IS LIKELY TO BE SMART or RETARDED.

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Of course not! The first people were black people in Africa so regardless of skin colour, we all have genes that have developed from these people. Also, in poorer countries, families can't afford education for their children, so of course they are not going to learn as much as rich white children. The idea of black people being more stupid is ludicrous and a racist belief from the past.

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Nom3nclature Disputed
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We are all descended from microbes so they must be ass smart as us right?

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HungryHippo(45) Disputed
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@Nom3nclature alright you have appeared to miss my point. I didn't say that our previous ancestors were as smart as us, my point was that we have all come from the same gene pool, the first ever humans. Basically we have all developed from the same genes (incidentally genes from dark skinned people) so there is no reason for any race to be more intelligent.

Please tell me, at which point did I say we have the same intelligence as monkeys? I did not. So your argument is pointless, irrelevant and unintelligent.

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FactMachine(430) Clarified
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White people are actually slightly less human than black people because white people are part neanderthal.

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marcusmoon(576) Disputed
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AlofRI,

Presidents, seem to make this racist ... (possibly Russian) post .... a moot point.

It is no more racist to ask this question, than it is to ask if Black people are genetically darker than White people.

Intelligence, like skin tone, is primarily genetically determined.

Like skin tone, what one does with it is a matter of behavior. I am a White guy who worked outside and had darker skin than my Black office worker friends. Likewise, a person with a moderate IQ may do more with it because of hard work and education than a person with a high IQ.

Also like skin tone, there are tolerances past which one cannot reach. A person with an IQ of 30 is unlikely to learn to talk, and certainly would never become a doctor.

Before you start calling me names, read my original post on this side, please.

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