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Debate Score:37
Arguments:35
Total Votes:41
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Are conservatives unfairly censored on social media?

It is often claimed, but is it true?

Yes

Side Score: 16
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No

Side Score: 21

Are conservatives unfairly censored on social media?

The opposite is true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent

Side: Yes
JustIgnoreMe(4316) Clarified
1 point

Your answer is no, but you post under yes - and with a reference to a book published before social media existed??

Good job, Ace!

Side: Yes
2 points

Your answer is no, but you post under yes

Actually, I did neither. I replied to your post specifically and directly. Weren't you lecturing us about how easy it is to tell when somebody does that just the other day? Yes, I think you were, weren't you? There is hypocrisy and then there is you. You frequently lecture hypocrisy about how it isn't being hypocritical enough, do you not?

book published before social media existed??

What difference does that make? Social media is a form of mass media, and that is what their model predicts. The reason academics call it a model you see is precisely because it is intended to predict future as well as past behaviours.

You learn something new every day, right? Well, not you. You ignore something new every day, but I guess in your little delusional world where you are never wrong about anything that's OK.

Side: No
BRONT(268) Disputed
1 point

Are conservatives unfairly censored on social media?

The opposite is true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent

Excellent. Your opposition to Conservatives being censored is a left wing site that can be altered by anyone at any time. This was the best Nazi propaganda you could muster? I expected more.

Side: No
Spanner(9) Disputed
1 point

Excellent. Your opposition to Conservatives being censored is a left wing site

Excellent. Whoever disagrees with you is a left wing spy and needs to be ignored. Good one. Send me some of that tinfoil if you can spare it, Adolf. The Russians are coming.

Side: Yes
JustIgnoreMe(4316) Clarified
1 point

If it can be altered by anyone, how is it left-wing?

Side: Yes
2 points

I would say yes. The reason being they put SOO much crap on social media that it becomes necessary to keep one's site "respectable". I mean, you can only disparage freedom of speech just so much before it gets disgusting. After all, social media is scoured by children every day! You wouldn't want YOUR kids seeing some of that right-wing garbage ... would you?? Conservatively speaking, that is .... ;-)

Side: Yes
Jace(4829) Disputed
1 point

If you raise a child with basic critical reasoning they should be capable of vetting bullshit for themselves. If you have to insulate them from bullshit to keep them from being full of bullshit, then you've already lost.

Side: No
AlofRI(3054) Clarified
3 points

I will agree with you here, Jace, that's why my kids all ignore much of what they read on social media and are non-Trumpers.

They feel even more confident in their thoughts this week, as the SCOTUS has rejected a LOT of deniable information spread about gays and DACA! Justice is still alive in America, albeit hanging by a thread in this administration. WHAT A WEEK! Bolton, DACA, LGBT, then there's the rise in covid19, the "Hold Harmless" signature wanted by Trump (making obvious the cover-up of the dangers ;-), 51 - 41% Biden / Trump ... etc. America MAY survive Trump after all! :-)

Side: Yes
JustIgnoreMe(4316) Clarified
0 points

"they put SOO much crap on social media"

Indeed. That's part of why I included "unfairly" in the question.

If people of one side try to break the rules more often, then I don't think it would be unfair to apply the rules evenly, even if it would have disparate impact.

Side: Yes

"Right-leaning pages in total have a bigger presence on Facebook"

ref

Side: No
2 points

To whatever extent conservatives are censored on social media, that censorship is not unfair given their own personal convictions about the liberties of privately owned enterprises (i.e. social media is a privatized commodity) and the illegitimacy of identity based politics (i.e. no protected classes in public, let alone private, affairs).

Side: No

"no research has ever suggested that Republicans have been disadvantaged on social media platforms."

ref

Side: No
BRONT(268) Disputed
1 point
1 point

Oh, and looky here. The facebook "oversight board" contains nerry a Conservative...

You're just a fucking liar Bronto. Plain and simple. Not only is your article entirely absent of evidence supporting your claim, but it contains all the information necessary to disprove it:-

“[I]n hope of somewhat moderating Mike's very strong conservative bent,”

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/great-christian-jurists-in-american-history/reformed-liberalism-michael-mcconnells-contributions-to-christian-jurisprudence/1257EAFD8C1135118F6C4CCC9F8074E2

Every single solitary word which comes out of your mouth is a lie. You're a boring, moderately insane fascist cunt with a mouth the size of the Mersey tunnel.

Side: No
BRONT(268) Disputed
1 point

Facebook’s new ‘supreme court’ looks like a license to censor

The Facebook Oversight Board — a 20-member independent panel that will rule on which posts can be blocked as false or as hate speech or harassment — is a recipe for left-wing censorship.

Sure, there's a token conservative, such as Stanford Law prof Michael McConnell. But even he is potentially compromised, since his firm (Wilson Sonsini) represents much of the Silicon Valley corporate elite.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/ 2020/05/07/facebooks-new-supreme-court-looks-like-a-license-to-censor/amp/

Side: Yes
1 point

"there's a token conservative, such as Stanford Law prof Michael McConnell"

5 minutes before this post, you were calling him a liberal.

Side: No
1 point

Sure, there's a token conservative, such as Stanford Law prof Michael McConnell.

You seem to be forgetting that the actual Conservatives who were in the Republican Party at the time of Trump's leadership coup all detest him with a passion equal to that of most liberals. Trump is a Conservative in the same way that Hitler was a Conservative. That is, he's a fascist who believes in his own "total authority" and nothing else.

Side: No
BRONT(268) Disputed
0 points

"no research has ever suggested that Republicans have been disadvantaged on social media platforms."

How convenient that your source is left wing.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-verge/?amp

I've been censored and banned from multiple leftist sites that never ban leftists, even for more vile offenses, including this one, despite the resident leftist regularly using the words "Nazi, "idiot", "stupid", not a Jew, Jewish prick, etc towards anyone and everyone still having the account he does this with.

And I'm not nearly the only one. Every single right wing, political friend I have on facebook, youtube, and twitter, including myself, have voiced it happening to them on those very platforms.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/495814-candace-owens-twitter-account-suspended?amp

Side: Yes
1 point

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-verge/?amp

Thanks for posting this. Here's what your link says:-

High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing, supporting the consensus of science and a clean fact check record.

So the source is legitimate.

Side: No
1 point

If Andy bans you, it is not because of his left-wing bias...

Side: No
0 points

How convenient that your source is left wing.

You literally accuse every site which has a problem with neo-Nazi propaganda of being a left wing site. Shut your stupid mouth you boring fascist twat.

Side: No