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Debate Score:31
Arguments:19
Total Votes:34
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HaveOurValuesTurned'Superficial'+HasOurFocusOnWhat'sImportantChanged4TheWorse/be

  1. YES: Role-models and who we aspire to are indicative of this.  Children as young as 6 aspire to people like Katie Price - is this what the world is coming to? 
  2. Governments want to seem they are doing something and actually give a toss about our health and have the our/ public's interest at heart. But we all know the reason why they haven't banned the promoting of smoking in disadvantaged countries and the children being manipulated for profit- because of the INCOME/MONEY!!!!
  3. NO: well, you decide!

Yes

Side Score: 16
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No

Side Score: 15
3 points

We live in a society created by our ancestors not our doing.humanity can no longer afford to uphold our ancestors code of conduct. humanity's survival depends on the people of today, building a better tomorrow. the youth pick up where the old left off with everyone being taught their values from their parents who got theirs from their parents. We have lost sight as to whats truly important. We dont need to live this way. we have been misled in our lives that has lead us to use our lives in a manner witch you disagree with. we create the future and our core moral values deside what that future will be.

Side: Yes
2 points

Yes. Just like the Bible predicted. It's a worldwide epidemic. Then there's the wars and rumors of wars. There are more armed conflicts going on now, then any other period in history. And look at the Middle East. It's a powder keg, just waiting for a match. It's not too hard to see parallels between Bible prophecy and current events.

Side: Yes
2 points

I agree- the Bible prophesies of the recent events do undeniably correspond. What do you think of after- life or reincarnation? Are you religious?

Side: Yes
Grugore(856) Clarified
2 points

It is appointed unto a man, once, to die. Then the Judgement. Does that answer your question? ^_^

Side: Yes
2 points

We are slowly being systematically desensitized as to the importance of holding good values by being exposed to things such as murder through media broadcast,games, etc. When one can turn on the news and someone being killed is a normal event, the importance of human life because less. Theft, robbery, murder, violence and even war has become the norm, and society just accepts it as a part of life.

Side: Yes
1 point

I think that relationships in the past were much more stable because people went through real hardships, nowadays, it's all about looks because there is not much else to focus on - that is sending the wrong message to young girls thanks to the media.

Then again they shouldn't be so swayed by things which are so superficial.

Side: Yes
1 point

I have decided to change the technicalities of the previous Question due to a lot of people missing the point.

Side: Yes
3 points

Values as a category cannot "disintegrate." They can only change over time. The premise of this debate assumes the position that there is one ultimate and universal set of values which is breaking down over time. This seems to me unlikely because of the many values systems which operate independently and are held simultaneously across various cultures and subcultures (I'll grant that this position admits of some good criticisms). Even where individual values systems change however, this does not mean that people no longer hold values. Rather, they now hold different values. Even when changes are deemed to be negative or maladaptive, this does not imply a disintegration of the category known as "values."

Side: No
HumannamuH(209) Disputed
1 point

True- but as a human, we must base our logical arguments on a premises. The so called 'laws' we abide by are an example of this, based on categories, dependent on circumstance etc. the House of Lords and various essential political powers, not even that! Basic reasoning requires some point of reference. It is true that they change, but is it for the better? Disintegration is defined in Oxford dictionary as: 'Lose strength or cohesion and gradually fail' and in Cambridge dictionary as: 'to become much worse'.

Your quintessential flaw is twice assuming that 'disintegration' can only be applied literally and just because different cultures/ subcultures hold independent values, it doesn't mean that the impact on every aspect of our lives should be disregarded. So you are saying that values as a category cannot be subject to disintegration. So even you say that changes are measured by how you 'deem' things to be. You cannot possibly remain objective when talking of values - I am only interested in knowing an honest opinion, you can interpret it how you want and examine every word in the Bible to look for flaws and find as many different interpretations to your hearts content; the same with people's motives, but if we can't agree on one thing, or assume anything, then we would always reach an impasse. When we die, we assume that we are dead, when we test a hypothesis we assume a set of values. If the government suddenly proposed it was legal to commit any crime (murder) could you say the same? You needed to assume that we need to measure somehow values against a universal set of values. Do we and should we? Who says that other cultures and if there was another planet, that they are right?

Side: Yes
Swryght(161) Disputed
3 points

Thank you for the thoughtful reply. You've raised some of the legitimate criticisms I mentioned of cultural relativism. However, I am willing to bite the bullet and say that I accept the implications of cultural relativism that we can't accurately judge the moral status of those on an alien planet or if the government legalized murder (heck, according to some people, it already has -think of war, capital punishment, abortion as some contentious examples). Still, I feel the need to reiterate that even if certain values systems are deteriorating in the way you have defined the term, values are also changing and being reconstituted to reflect changed circumstances. This is not a feature unique to "today's" society as you have framed it. Values have been changing since day one.

Side: No
GayisSin Disputed
1 point

The Bible is morality. It is unchanging and it is God's word.

Side: Yes
2 points

It's far from unchanging. Contrast the King James version and the New Revised Standard version. Contrast any English translation with the Classical Greek. Contrast the Classical Greek version of the Old Testament with the original Hebrew Torah.

The Bible is the word of numerous men that are attributed to God.

Side: No
Swryght(161) Disputed
2 points

So how many people have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath?

Side: No
HumannamuH(209) Disputed
1 point

But that is an opinion; what morals are we speaking of? The ones which God created himself and supposedly used to condemn us all to sin because of Adam and Eve?

Side: No
2 points

Values can only change, not disintegrate because values disintegrating would imply that there is only one set of values, and no other. If they lose value, nothing gets it, and that's wrong. Other things are more valued now than others, it's just a change, not a disintegration.

Side: No
HumannamuH(209) Disputed
1 point

Please scroll to the top and analyse what I said to Swryght

Side: Yes