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Are statistics facts or guides?

So many people use statistics as facts.  How specific does a statistic need to be in order to be considered a fact? Obviously people overuse statistics to prove their opinion, when in actual fact, those statistics are so heavily based on bias, that they honestly shouldn't be used at all.  Statistics are so often created to show a certain perspective, that they limit or broaden the target to the point where their perspective is best showcased.   

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This post has piqued my interest because it is both amazing and informative. If you have time, we can play retro bowl and discuss it more.

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Depends who gathered these statistics, why, and what they left out. I saw a stat saying liberals tend to watch more non-liberal media than Conservatives do non-conservative media. The non-liberal sources were ABC, NBC and CBS who are all liberal as hell. So the stat was overtly a lie. All 3 of these networks tried to destroy Trump, Romney and McCain.

Side: Guides
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If statistics are complied scientifically on a pro-rata basis from a representative sample of society including age, ethnicity and political affiliation then the resulting figure(s) could deemed to be as factual at the time of their collation.

Side: Facts
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How specific does a statistic need to be in order to be considered a fact?

Hello :

Statistics aren't facts, and never will be facts.. Facts are conclusions people come to, or not, after studying the statistics.

So many people use statistics as facts.

Yes, they do, and they're confused.

Obviously people overuse statistics to prove their opinion, when in actual fact, those statistics are so heavily based on bias, that they honestly shouldn't be used at all

Biased statistics aren't statistics.. They're propaganda.

Statistics are so often created to show a certain perspective,

Statistics aren't created. They're gathered..

they limit or broaden the target to the point where their perspective is best showcased.

Statistics don't have a perspective. People do.

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Uniballer(34) Disputed
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"Facts are conclusions people come to after studying the statistics."

Conclusions based on statistics are opinions, much like many of your definitions.

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JackAce(49) Disputed
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Statistics don't have a perspective. People do.

Probably why Conservayives tend to want to see the video of what happened rather than get a fake interpretation of what happened from a group of rich people claiming to be journalists from the ivory tower.

Side: Guides
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Well, on the other side of the coin we have the old adage;-

''there are lies, there are damned lies and then there are statistics''.

Make your choice.

An interesting official statistic is that one particular ethnic group which represents 10% of the population is responsible for 90% of all violent crimes including murder.

Certain important decisions are based on the information provided by statistics, so it would be quite catastrophic if they were wholly unreliable.

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Uniballer(34) Disputed
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That last statistic is kind of my point. That ethnic group is then thought to be more violent then the other groups. Perhaps the ethnic group has nothing to do with violence. Perhaps its a certain intelligence level, a certain income range or poverty level. Does that statistic change immensely when looking at different cities with different demographics?

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Norwich(393) Disputed
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Firstly, poverty should not be used as an excuse for crime, nor should a lower than average I Q.

Denying that statistics which were objectively and professionally compiled, are correct, and indeed only confirming what is a universal statically proven phenomenon can only be described as thick-headed stupidity.

Certain ethnic groups, such as blacks and Latinos have a congenital predisposition to crime, particularly violent crime.

These racial and ethical/cultural characteristics are repeated in countries throughout the world where blacks and those of certain nationalities have adopted as their homes.

The glaring disproportionate violent crime figures of blacks and a few other ethnic groups are much the same from Australia to Canada and from the U.S.A., to Europe.

We then enter into the the area of asking questions, such as;-

Why are, let's say, blacks, Latinos, even in their own countries of origin, poorer than other races and nationals such as whites and Asians?

I grew up in the 1940s and 50s in Northern Ireland which like most of the rest of Europe was devastated by WW2 and the vast majority of people were penniless.

I'll not bore you with the grim details but suffice to say that the poverty in my district of Belfast was desperate with most people not having enough to eat from day to day.

But, crime was almost non-existent and people could go about their business, DAY OR NIGHT without fear of violence.

We all had common enemies, poverty, hunger and cold and we strove together to alleviate the hardships with which we were faced.

Robbing or harming each other was not a consideration and we all tried to keep our neighborhoods clean and tidy with households scrubbing the sidewalk immediately outside their homes.

POVERTY IS ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE FOR CRIME OR A LACK OF SELF AND COMMUNITY PRIDE.

YOUR STRENGTH LIES WITHIN YOURSELF, YOUR UPBRINGING AND NOT THE DRIVEL SPEWED OUT BY THE WELL SUITED SOCIOLOGISTS AND PSYCHOLOGITS.

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