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 Are you a Libertarian, Compatibilist, Hard Determinist or other? (2)

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Are you a Libertarian, Compatibilist, Hard Determinist or other?

And WHY you believe in what you do and how the others are wrong.

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Libertarian free will means that our choices are free from the determination or constraints of human nature and free from any predetermination by God. All “free will theists” hold that libertarian freedom is essential for moral responsibility, for if our choice is determined or caused by anything, including our own desires, they reason, it cannot properly be called a free choice. Libertarian freedom is, therefore, the freedom to act contrary to one’s nature, predisposition and greatest desires. Responsibility, in this view, always means that one could have done otherwise. - http://www.theopedia.com/Libertarian_free_will

Not to be confused with the political idea. I hope people don't start quoting Ron Paul here or something--two utterly different things that happen to share a name.

So I fail to see how any thing could be free from it's nature, nor how necessarily one would not still be responsible for actions, pre-determined or not. It is not a mutually exclusive idea that one could be bound to nature and at the same time responsible for actions within that nature.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatibilism - Compatibilism is the belief that free will and determinism are compatible ideas, and that it is possible to believe both without being logically inconsistent.[1] It may, however, be more accurate to say that compatibilists define "free will" in a way that allows it to co-exist with determinism (in the same way that incompatibilists define "free will" such that it cannot). They may understand free will to refer to something like liberty (e.g., a freedom to act according to one's determined motives). In contrast, the incompatibilist positions are concerned with a sort of "metaphysically free will," which compatibilists claim has never been coherently defined.

Closer. I think though that it is redefining free will to a point that it is an almost inconsequential word. I don't think that redefining the idea of free will is a legitimate approach. Free will is an idea that you are not constrained at all, influenced sure, but nothing is predetermined. Hard compatibilism simply changes that definition of free will to something else.

Hard determinism (or metaphysical determinism) is a view on free will which holds that that determinism is true, and that it is incompatible with free will, and thus that free will does not exist. It is contrasted with soft determinism, which is a compatibilist form of determinism, holding that free will may exist even despite determinism.[1] It is also contrasted with metaphysical libertarianism, the other major form of incompatibilism which holds that free will exists and determinism is false. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_determinism

Here is the closest to what I think is correct. But in order to function in society it is important there is still responsibility. At any given time we feel we are doing any given thing of our own accord. I do not buy this. Even hard decisions are made to an inevitable conclusion based on all stimuli, knowledge, chemicals in our brain, perhaps a million other factors, still though, without those factors the choice does not exist, since it is Dependant on the factors listed (even when counter to intuition or preference) every choice is pre-determined. Pre-determined yet unknown, but still pre-determined.

I think it is the complexity of the underlying factors that give the illusion of free will. I also don't believe there is any entity which has created or planned this course. I think things can both be random and pre-determined based on countless factors around us and within us.

Side: close to determinist
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Sort of Compatibilist in the sense that we are free to make our own choices.

However, on the metaphysical sense I'm just a determinist. To me, all actions are merely results of the actions before it. This includes our very own choice. We're all slaves to our life experiences and biological make-ups. We think we're making a "free decision", and without metaphysics, yes, we could be. But including the physical realm that we live in, there is nothing happening that is completely random (that we know of). Although, physicists are starting to find that there MAY BE completely random particles... however, that isn't the same for us...

Side: close to determinist