Are you against Immigrants crossing the border Illegally to America?
So there is a huge controversy over whether or not Illegal Immigrant should be able to come to America. It obviously is against the law against it, but nonetheless everyone has their opinions, even if they go against the law. When an Illegal Immagrant is caught, he or she must serve 5 years in a prison in America, and if it happens a second time, I believe it is 10 years (sorry if my facts are a little off) Many people believe that Illigal Immagrants are taking American's jobs, and other things like that. Whereas some people think that they should be allowed to come here to have a better life. So what is your opinion on this matter? I truly am interested in what you have to say.
Yes, I most definitely am
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No, I am not.
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I see your point, but at the same time I still have to disagree. They do not 'steal' jobs pursae, they earn them. And they are willing to work harder than most Americans. (emphasis on the most, not all.) I feel that we should welcome them. Everyone deserves the opportunities that you and I, as well as all Americans are given. How would you feel if the tables were turned? Side: No, I am not.
Their is a legal system in place already for becoming a citizen but it involves a waiting period and it seems these guys think they are to good for that of something I welcome all legal immigrants because they have shown that they play by the rules but all illegals should GTFO and wait in fucking line. Side: Yes, I most definitely am
No my great grand parents on my dads side where immigrants my great great great great great great ect grand parents on my moms side were immigrants (well actually they where settlers there was no established country so it wasn't REALLY immigration) i was born hear that makes me a native. Side: Yes, I most definitely am
Yes and it's nothing racial okay so don't nobody go jumping down my thought callen me a racist okay. But any way to my point. It's not a good thing at all first of all they steal jobs okay and since they aren't citizens they can work for less than minimum wage and that drives minimum wage down so even the Americans who still have a job get shafted. And not to mention its bringing drug violence north of the border too. And lastly it isn't fair to those patiently waiting their turn in their own countries for their paper work to clear that Paco just entered the US ILLEGALLY and was just given full amnesty. Side: Yes, I most definitely am
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They come over screaming : OUR COUNTRY! Take the case of the poor Mexican mother. She's FLOWN OVER to give birth in the USA. After she gives birth, her baby is AUTOMATICALLY a United States citizen. WHAT. The mother is flown off, and the baby is dumped into fostercare. OR She doesn't become a citizen and mooches off of OUR tax dollars for FREE healthcare, FREE schooling for her kids, FREE insurance, etc. Also, they come over waving the Mexican flag. Honestly, you never see Americans running to Mexico, becoming citizens, and waving the American flag in the city streets. Also, this is equal to a person breaking into your house. You tell them to go. They say : "But I like it here. It is better than my house. I am, hardworking and honest. I will sweep the floors, and do your dishes and everything you like to do!" Again, you ask them to go. "No! I am hardworking and honest. And this is better than MY home. I DEMAND free education for my kids. I DEMAND free healthcare. I DEMAND to live here with you." Side: Yes, I most definitely am
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I might not be if America was actually a difficult country to get in to. But it's not. Some countries want me to be a mufti-lingual PhD with a family and a physicist for a wife before they'll even consider my application. With America you fill out a few forms and show you can sing our national anthem (not even in our native language) and bam you're a citizen. The only reasons I can see that someone would want to immigrate illegally as opposed to legally are laziness and extreme impatience. Side: Yes, I most definitely am
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Okay first of all I personally have crossed the boarder both ways and it's really not that hard. I'm a legal US citizen and we were having some fun... not like they regulate Americans coming into Mexico, but still. Secondly the boarder isn't a desert. If the potential illegal immigrants decided to walk straight through one of Mexicos deserts to get to the boarder, all I can say is tough luck, that's natural selection. Lastly, my original point had nothing to do with the act of crossing the boarder illegally, which is what you're talking about here. My post addressed the simplicity of the process of becoming a legal immigrant. Did you read my post? Side: Yes, I most definitely am
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Except it doesn't take a long time compared to other countries. It takes time, yes, like any immigration process, but America is famous for being both incredibly diverse and a refuge for immigrants. If it's too much hassle to legally immigrate to the country where 20% of all legal immigrants per year move to there's not something wrong with the process, there's something wrong with you. Like I said: extreme impatience. If you're hungry and there's a long line at the supermarket is the proper response to cut to the front of the line? If you're late for work at waiting at a red light is the proper response to run the red light? In other words, is it okay to break the rules or the law because you're impatient? It sucks if their family is suffering, but again, natural selection. If a Mexican decides to have more kids than he can realistically support, that's not Americas problem. That's his own stupid mistake. America can help him fix his problem, as America often does, so circumventing this help in favor of breaking the law to enter the country in order to try to make up for his original stupid mistake doesn't fly with me. Side: Yes, I most definitely am
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I have no problem with anyone coming to America, as long as they do it legally. If they cross the border illegally they are then criminals. We lock up American citizens for not obeying the law and then reward criminals for coming here illegally. Laws exist for a reason. I disagree with some of them, but I must obey them until we can get them changed. We can't go into mexico, or canada without the proper paperwork, they should honor our laws just as we honor theirs. Side: Yes, I most definitely am
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I personally am not Against Immigrants crossing the American Border Illegally. I feel that everyone deserves the chance to have a better life. And America has that to offer, but instead we have become very selfish. Why wouldn't we want to help these people? In the spanish regions mainly, such as mexico. It takes about 4 YEARS to get enough money they need in order to become a citizen of The United States of America. When all they want is a better life for them and their family. Can you really blame them? And What happened to America being the land of the free? I feel like we should welcome these people who risk their LIVES just so they can have better ones. So they can have the opportunities that America has to offer them. I feel that we should allow them to freely come to America. I feel that is whats right. But America is very selfish. We want all these opportunities/jobs/money/etc for ourselves. People shouldn't have to go to prison for 5 or 10 years if they are caught, and they definitely shouldn't have to be brutally beaten/deported/etc. Did you know That per person that goes to prison, that is 80,000 dollars? Thats how much money it takes for prisons to take care of just ONE person. So by putting them in prison we are actually wasting money. They deserve a chance. It its by CHANCE that we were born here, so they should have that chance to come here, for they weren't as lucky as we were. Most of us Americans wouldn't even be able to pass a citizenship test. Yet we make other people, just as important and good as we are take it for a large amount of money just so they can have a good life? Or at least a decent one? And you know most of the people who say that they should not be able to come here have never actually seen what its like to live where these people live. They have no idea how bad it really is. "The last one to notice the water is the fish" We as Americans, are the fish. We live in Americas water, but we don't even really realize what its like outside of these waters. I hope I made this clear, I tried the best I could. But as always, I respect everyone's opinions. Side: No, I am not.
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And to add to my debate on the matter, Though I believe it should become legal for them to cross (without having to pay a large amount of money in order to do it) I still think they should have to pay taxes just like the rest of us, and shouldn't be allowed such things as food stamps, or other freebies, etc. Side: Yes, I most definitely am
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Well reality check buddy sovereign nations exists and as the name suggests they are separate from one another and you can't just stroll on over into another country and decide to live there without becoming either a resident Alien or a citizen and there is a line for both so get in it. Side: Yes, I most definitely am
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