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Oppressed White privilege
Debate Score:14
Arguments:18
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Are you oppressed if you work in a factory, or is it white privilege?

Oppressed

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White privilege

Side Score: 9
-1 points

Well, you don't give much choice of views, but, I worked in "factories" all my life. Traveled TO factories all over the world (15 countries), worked with people of ALL colors, and I considered it a "privilege", not any special "color privilege"! Few, today, would have the skills and knowledge I acquired over the years, most have retired. We got our hands dirty, we worked more than we played, and we built this world for YOU. We didn't feel "oppressed", we felt we were working for a better world. DE-pressed is what those of us left feel today (I think I can speak for many), because the "skills" today are in "gaming fingers", and many seem to feel "oppressed" if they have to put in a weeks work … especially if they have to break a sweat on anything but "fun".

Working in a factory should NOT make one feel oppressed. IF they are paid decent wages (which we fought for), get decent benefits and make a decent living for their family. Problem is, most capitalists would rather go back to "You work to eat, not to live a nice life!" Deregulating makes THAT closer and closer to reality!

I said: "SHOULD not make one feel oppressed." That was then, this is now. A deregulated country. Good luck. :-(

Side: Oppressed
1 point

Great piece Al your a man who knows the good of a job well done for a decent wage ,unfortunately the world seems to be changing into one of self entitled whiners who seem to know the price of everything but the value of nothing

Side: Oppressed
Hootie(674) Disputed
1 point

Great piece Al your a man who knows the good of a job well done for a decent wage ,unfortunately the world seems to be changing into one of self entitled whiners who seem to know the price of everything but the value of nothing

I love the way you call other people "brainless" right before you illustrate your complete inability to write coherently in your own language.

ROFLMAO.

Side: White privilege
outlaw60(15500) Clarified
1 point
outlaw60(15500) Disputed
1 point

Well, you don't give much choice of views, but, I worked in "factories" all my life. Traveled TO factories all over the world (15 countries), worked with people of ALL colors, and I considered it a "privilege", not any special "color privilege"! Few, today, would have the skills and knowledge I acquired over the years, most have retired. We got our hands dirty, we worked more than we played, and we built this world for YOU. We didn't feel "oppressed", we felt we were working for a better world. DE-pressed is what those of us left feel today (I think I can speak for many), because the "skills" today are in "gaming fingers", and many seem to feel "oppressed" if they have to put in a weeks work … especially if they have to break a sweat on anything but "fun".

Working in a factory should NOT make one feel oppressed. IF they are paid decent wages (which we fought for), get decent benefits and make a decent living for their family. Problem is, most capitalists would rather go back to "You work to eat, not to live a nice life!" Deregulating makes THAT closer and closer to reality!

I said: "SHOULD not make one feel oppressed." That was then, this is now. A deregulated country. Good luck. :-(

GRANDPAW why is it you Leftist are so oppressed now ?

Side: White privilege
outlaw60(15500) Disputed
1 point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-EWG6gYlhQ

Follow the stupidity you Leftist DUMMY !!!!!!!!

Side: White privilege
outlaw60(15500) Disputed
1 point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKpso3vhZtw

AL did your Negro Obie lie to you ?

Side: White privilege
marcusmoon(586) Clarified
1 point

Hello, Al.

"You work to eat, not to live a nice life!" Deregulating makes THAT closer and closer to reality!

Market forces, the law of supply and demand drive wages and prices to equilibrium. When anybody, whether government or industry organizations (trusts, trade unions) try to subvert the natural drive toward balance, it disrupts and weakens the economy.

Right now in the US, there is a 6 million job skills gap. The 6 million skilled blue collar jobs companies cannot find qualified people for will be higher paid due to the shortage.

The problem with modern labor unions is that too often they fight against the natural (and therefor fair) price of labor. Worse yet, these fools think they are doing a good thing.

Whether you like it or not, there is a tension between the desire for low cost manufactured products and the desire for plentiful high-paying factory jobs. Lower prices require lower wages or more automation (fewer jobs). Higher wages result in higher production costs and higher prices. This results in either reduced sales and the resulting lost jobs, or in inflation.

Side: Oppressed
AlofRI(2826) Clarified
1 point

The country made out well with trade unions. The country has gone downhill without them. I rest my case!

The "fair price of labor" has been replaced by the "fair taxation of those who can afford to pay taxes to advance the country's wealth". I agree, "fools think they are doing a good thing".

Side: Oppressed
marcusmoon(586) Clarified
1 point

Working in a factory should NOT make one feel oppressed. IF they are paid decent wages (which we fought for), get decent benefits and make a decent living for their family. Problem is, most capitalists would rather go back to "You work to eat, not to live a nice life!" Deregulating makes THAT closer and closer to reality!

Regulations limit the freedom of ALL parties involved. Those of us in favor of FREE market capitalism are in favor if it because we value FREEDOM more than money or anything else. The idea that money is the main factor, is your hang-up.

The definition of "a nice life" is up to the individual to define for himself/herself, and try to create that concept of a nice life for himself or herself. In order to do that people need freedom.

Ironically, despite calling themselves *liberals want more regulations to limit or destroy people's freedoms, particularly when it comes to economic freedoms. I know it is well intentioned, but that is particularly oppressive.

By contrast, free market capitalists favor self-determination for all people.

Side: Oppressed
excon(13150) Disputed
1 point

Ironically, despite calling themselves liberals want more regulations to limit or destroy people's freedoms

Hello marcus:

Yeah... That's the right wing slant..

I'd LIKE to trust that the coal mine operator WON'T pollute if we didn't interfere with his FREEDOMS, but I DON'T..

Call me a cynic.. I'm cool with it.

excon

Side: White privilege
AlofRI(2826) Clarified
1 point

Reguklations are there (almost entirely) to protect PEOPLE, or the environment. To protect people from being ripped off OR injured, to protect the environment (to protect people as well), Freedom doesn't do us much good if we're injured, sick or bankrupt! Freedom that is only for capitalists and not for other people OR the Earth, will not end up with much value from that "freedom"! If much of the people of the Earth are in poverty, diseased, the oceans and waterways polluted, the air polluted, the fish inedible, the air not fit to breath …. enjoy your "freedom"! Regulation PROTECTS us from the uncaring greed of capitalism! I have nothing against capitalism … as long as it is controlled … within reason! (To allow healthy freedom for ALL!)

Side: Oppressed
2 points

If you work in a factory, you are not some free loading able bodied sponge expecting others to support you.

Side: White privilege