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Hell, Yes! Not really.
Debate Score:71
Arguments:25
Total Votes:102
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Are you proud to be an American? (Or any other nationality)

Feeling self-respect, personal worth?

Hell, Yes!

Side Score: 33
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Not really.

Side Score: 38
1 point

I am proud of who I am. Part of who I am is an American citizen. I may be ashamed of the actions of leaders or groups around me, but of my nation and my nationality, I have pride.

Side: Hell, Yes!
1 point

I am absolutely proud to be an American. I appreciate the civics and culture of the USA and I do feel nationalist pride. The typology of nationalism is actually pretty interesting to read about. See supporting evidence below.

Supporting Evidence: The Typology of Nationalism (en.wikipedia.org)
Side: Hell, Yes!
1 point

I a proud to be a New Zealander. We are doing well down here, I see no major problems that aren't global. We seem to be running smoothly for the moment and I enjoy living in a place like this. Clean, green, expansive and hospitalizing.

Side: Hell, Yes!
1 point

I am proud to be an American because this means that though I did not create the situation that I was born and raised to (ie, Americana and the traditions passed down to us from founding) I have the ability to make the most of it and to live the American dream, a dream that can be anything I want it to be. I can go into politics, become a teacher, or become an entrepreneur. I can fund my schooling privately through a job or via public scholarships, I can always get health care, even if I have to go to the emergency room for it, and I can say what I want, when I want, without fear of my life. I am proud to be an American, and I look forward to raising my children in this country.

Side: Hell, Yes!
1 point

I too am proud to be an American. One could say that I am an American "by birth" and had no choice in the matter but as I look at the US and other nations this is where I choose to be. No country or government is perfect but aren't we responsible for that, don't we have the option of choice in the US. Read, investigate and be informed next time you vote, how many American citizens can actually tell you who their Senators and Representative are and what they believe in?

This country was founded by men and women who wanted something better and freedom. We are allowed to question and be critical of the workings of our country and I often think we are too focused on the criticism. The United States is a beautiful country filled with wonderful, intelligent and talented people. Stand up and be proud, if we were all a little more positive in our patriotism maybe we would enjoy our daily lives a bit more!

Side: Hell, Yes!
1 point

Yup, i am 100% proud of being irish, who wouldn't be?

Our country is steeped in incredible history that makes us who we are today.

We've come through a lot like our independence struggle and the famine but we're going okay!

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Side: Hell, Yes!

I am proud to be an American. I live here and like the beautiful scenery.

Side: Hell, Yes!
0 points

YES! why shouldn't i be proud to be an American?

Side: Hell, Yes!
0 points

Yes I am proud to be an American. I have served in the military for the past 12 years and have seen what young Americans can accomplish when they try. We have some of the best and brightest minds in this country. I am proud to be an American because I have seen the differences between America and (parts of) the rest of the world.

Side: Hell, Yes!
0 points

I'm definitely proud to be an American. Although I agree with other arguments saying that it wasn't an "accomplishment" of mine personally to come to America, I am very proud of my country and the obstacles we have overcome to become a leader in the world economically, scientifically, in health care, and in education. I am proud of the freedom and opportunity that I am afforded each day I wake up under the red, white, and blue flag.

Side: Hell, Yes!
-1 points

Part of America's greatness is if you are not proud of this country you're free to move out and go to some place you can be proud of.

Of course, you're also free to change things here, assuming you can motivate enough of your fellow citizens to agree with you politically.

Side: Hell, Yes!
-2 points
2 points

So if not proud than ashamed? Ever heard of indifference? Especially since we had zero influence on where we were born.

"people who realize what we have"

I think you mean people who are greatful, not proud.

Pride should be reserved for people who have accomplished something.

Side: Hell, Yes!
beevbo(296) Disputed
2 points

If people are unhappy with there country there are probably reason why. And hey, who know, maybe for some the answer to their problem is to just simply leave. I live in Canada, and I know a couple who left the US because of the direction they saw the country was headed in.

Other would rather stay and try to fix what they feel is wrong, which is probably more patriotic than any amount of bumper sticks or pointless flag waving.

Side: Hell, Yes!
11 points

I am a natural born American. Since I had no say in where I was born I can't say that I am proud to be an American. Being an American is not an accomplishment of mine. Had I struggled against odds and came to the United States and gained citizenship then I might be proud to be an American. From a materialistic perspective I am fortunate to be an American but not proud to be one.

Side: Not really.
4 points

No. I'm proud to be Chinese, culturally, because I chose to be. In most cases, nationality is not something you choose. But if you do, I think you should be proud of your choice. Ethnicity, however, is the most foolish thing to be proud about.

Side: Not really.
3 points

The fact that we murder and kill indiscriminately and meddle in other countries' political business, purely for economic reasons, makes me ashamed to be an American. Anything for the bottom line. We exploit countries around the world (Indonesia, Mexico, India, etc.) and overthrow their leaders (Iran, Chile, Nicaragua, etc.) or out-right invade them when they don't cooperate. We have a long list of human rights violations that we aren't taught about in school. And we have the balls to pretend to be the model for democracy. We use international organizations like the WTO and IMF to enslave 3rd world countries in the name of poverty. As a country, we need help. That's not to mention our rampant materialism, ignorance, arrogance, and government corruption.

Side: Not really.
mjwhite1(33) Disputed
1 point

This argument is simply based on opinion not on fact and because of that it has no basis in objective truth. It's political spin rather than valid political perspective.

Side: Hell, Yes!
Bradf0rd(1431) Disputed
2 points

O-M-F-G

The question is "Are you proud to be an American?"

This question requires nothing more than opinion.

Side: Not really.
3 points

My father donated sperm on US soil, and my mother donated an egg, also on US soil. Hence I am a citizen of the US. Should this make me proud? Note that I took no overt action; I merely came into existence.. Some people can apparently feel authentic pride at the actions of others, but I am not one of them, with two important exceptions. I am the father of two children. I contributed greatly to making them the wonderful people that they are. Yes, I am unreservedly proud of them. However, I am no more proud of my nationality than I am of being bipedal.

Side: Not really.
3 points

American? As in one living in America? I can't be proud of being something that doesn't exist. I certainly don't recognize the place!

To be proud to be an American (and I assume you mean a member of the United States, and not Central American, South American, or those other North Americans in Canada or Mexico) is to be proud of the government of The United States of America. It's founded on great principals and a great constitution. This constitution has been basically nullified by a fascist executive branch. Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of happiness? Nope, the president now presumes to be able to kill and imprison US citizens without recourse and nobody seems to mind. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/12/03/attack/main531596.shtml

The patriot bill basically kills the fourth amendment. Hell, we torture people! Torture!

This is not the America I lived in for 31 years before the dictator we have in office took over. I am not proud of seeing it go away.

One final word to the person who suggests that people who are not proud of their country should leave: If the United States were taken over by a foreign power, say China, would you leave, or stay and fight? Well, you gave your cowardly answer already - if you don't like the way things are, run away! I'm not proud of the way things are turning out for my country, but I won't abandon my home and the country I love to the likes of these fascists!

Side: Not really.
3 points

What about being born in America and being called an American am I susposed to be proud of?

Side: Not really.

I don't understand, why so many people in the USA say they are proud of being American. I even see bumper stickers saying "The Power of Pride" - isn't Pride a deadly sin?

I totally get to be proud of your country - the USA has done many great things. But just because your parents where at a certain place, when they gave birth to you is not really a great deed of yours.

I'm German - I'm not proud to be German (too much patriotism is frowned up on my generation of Germans), but I do like my country and I think we are doing a lot of things to be proud of right now (Humanitarian, Environmental or Scientific things for example).

Side: Not really.

You cannot choose where you're born. I'm not happy with what my country is doing, and I feel no obligation to show patriotism. Don't get me wrong- I don't hate America either- things just need to be changed.

To the people on the opposite side of me who say it should be unconditional, I ask: What about if you lived in Nazi Germany or Saddam Iraq? What's the difference? You wouldn't be happy with what they did, just like we aren't happy with what's going on now.

Side: Not really.