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Really, I wouldn't Nobody believes you, excon
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As a committed liberal, I would NOT oppose a wall that Mexico PAYS for. Would you?

Hello:

In fact, they'd have every right to build and pay for a wall on their side of the border..  Why is that our business?

More importantly, though..  Why WOULD they?

excon

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Nobody believes you, excon

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You do support the same gun control laws proposed by the old racist, White, South to control blacks.

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Can't Afford A Border Wall?

Fine, let's examine the massive spending that's occurred since President Lyndon Johnson's so-called war on poverty, an effort launched in the mid-'60s. In the following five decades, according to The Heritage Foundation, taxpayers have spent over $22 trillion in this effort. The result? Poverty, trending down in America before the mid-'60s, reversed itself. Poverty among blacks fell from 87% in 1940 to 47% by 1960. Five years into Johnson's "war," America's poverty rate declined to 12.1%. But within a few years, poverty reversed course and increased to 15%, where it has more or less remained. This "war" led to greater government dependency and increased fatherlessness as a growing number of single mothers, in essence, married the government. Has the "war on poverty" passed the efficiency test?

Then there's Obama's nearly $1 trillion "stimulus" plan that failed to achieve its own unemployment reduction targets. Ditto his "Cash for Clunkers," "Cash for Caulkers" and "green-tech" programs, which have cost taxpayers billions of dollars while failing to achieve their objectives.

Obama, after insisting he lacked authority, used an executive order to create Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals — even though immigration law is up to Congress. But Trump can't use $5 billion from this year's $700 billion defense budget for a down payment on a border wall for national security, the principal job of the commander in chief?

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Republicans started taking donations, attempting to make the wall free for the government, and Democrats rose a stink to block it. That tells you all you need to know.

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excon(15058) Disputed
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Republicans started taking donations, attempting to make the wall free for the government, and Democrats rose a stink to block it. That's all you need to know

Hello D:

In the real world, even IF Democrats raised a stink to block it, they have no POWER to actually BLOCK it. They're just running their mouths. IF Republicans are NOT accepting those donations anymore, it's because they don't WANT to accept those donations anymore.

Look... WITHOUT the government/Democrats approval, if they raised several billion they COULD erect a wall on one of the many stretches of private property that span the border and overlap into Mexico..

I KNOW that.. Now, you KNOW that.. Doncha think those Republicans who're accepting donations KNEW that?? Dude.

That's all you need to know.

excon

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DineshDsouza(30) Disputed
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In the real world, even IF Democrats raised a stink to block it, they have no POWER to actually BLOCK it. They're just running their mouths.

We are very familiar with the American left.

IF Republicans are NOT accepting those donations anymore, it's because they don't WANT to accept those donations anymore.

They are still taking the donations. Democrats keep telling them you can't appropriate funds that way without Congress's approval, which is true, but if Democrats weren't open borders, they wouldn't have screamed about it. They did scream about it.

The Veteran continues to raise the funds despite all of this, and is up over $20 million.

Side: Nobody believes you, excon