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Ask yourself why you are so offended by displays of our Christian heritage.

Hello From:

You ASK the question above, but you DON'T wanna HEAR an answer, so you ban me.  There ain't much I can say about that..  But, I have PLENTY to say about your post...

Certainly, pursuant to the 1st Amendment, we have religious liberty in this great country..  That means, if we let Christians display their symbols in the public square, we'd have to let other religions display theirs..

So, lemme ask you...  Would you be OFFENDED by Muslim displays in the public square??  It's a simple question.. 



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I'm not "offended by displays of YOUR Christian heritage … in their place. FromWhatever mentions "our" like it means HIS United States and everyone in it is, or should be, "Christian". That is un-Constitutional to the max! Freedom of religion does NOT mean freedom to worship only the Christian way! Does NOT mean the religion with the most money can advertise its invisible god anywhere it pleases …. and enough to blot out other religions.

When we pledge, we place our hand on the Bible (if we wish), and swear to uphold The Constitution, we do NOT swear to uphold The Bible …. and it is JUST AS LEGAL to place your hand on the Constitution, or the Quran, or whatever your religion believes in, to do the swearing. THAT is religious freedom. I would not swear on a Bible that I don't believe in, I'd insist on the Constitution …. the one that doesn't allow public displays of Christianity, a known to be violent religion. That law is what keeps U.S. from being a "Christian version" of Iran!

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FromWithin(8263) Disputed
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Anti Christian BIGOT as always!

You spew pure fiction when trying to say I want a Christian Theocracy! It's sickening listening to liars and deceivers on the Left. This is why you are banned!

It is people like you who want a Secularocracy in our nation of religious freedom. You would censor any mention of our majority Christian heritage.

It's scary we have people like you who are so afraid of our freedoms of religious expression.

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AlofRI(3244) Clarified
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It's scary to ME that we have people who can't read AND understand what a person says, because they have a mindset that wont allow deviations from what they have been indoctrinated to think. Not ONE word of your statement about what I have said, or what I think, is what I have said OR think.

Take off your evangelical blinders and REALLY find religious freedom ……… which is something I have ALWAYS defended! That does NOT include religious indoctrination, just the "free" thoughts of religious expression among those who are interested in those thoughts. Those who are NOT should have the "freedom" to have THEIR thoughts about, or without religion. We CAN NOT have religious freedom if we must live under the rules of someone's "god" that OTHERS don't believe in! Your "Christian heritage" is just THAT …. YOUR'S, NOT something everyone in OUR nation has to live under. THAT would NOT be "religious freedom". THAT would be a theocracy. Yes, I am for secularism …. with religious freedom for those who WANT a religion and also for those who do NOT want, or can't believe, in one. I wouldn't "censor" YOUR Christian heritage, but, YOU WOULD, and DO, try to censor MY atheism! THAT, in a free country, IS SCARY!

Everyone in Iran and other "strictly Islamic" countries HAVE to "respect" one religion. I would rather "respect" someone's freedom to believe as they wish without religious propaganda from ANY religion pressuring them from all angles. YOU are the "bigot" because YOU are against anything BUT "Christianity".

I am not offended by YOUR Christian heritage, I am offended that you try to make it AMERICA'S heritage. It is NOT. ;-)

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seanB(959) Disputed
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A secular government is necessary for a religious freedom. Every country that isn't secular, is a theocracy or a tyranny or a personality cult. The ONLY countries on this planet that protect individual rights, are secular countries.

Side: I'm NOT

To the deceptive person I ban, you are doing it again!

I have always supported freedom for any community to decide for themselves if they display religious symbols celebrating holidays etc. etc.

In the very few communities with a majority Muslim electorate, they could vote to display Muslim symbols, as Jewish communities have done.

I'm not a bigot, and support freedom of the people to decide. I teach my children to never cover their ears and eyes when seeing Jewish symbols in public. We don't bury our heads or censor things as Liberals constantly do towards religion.

Maybe you missed it your entire life, and never grasped the facts that we are a majority Christian nation with our laws and holidays and symbols representing those facts.

If the Democrat Party had it's wish, they would see a majority Muslim America as we have seen in Socialist Europe.

The Left is made up of bigoted elites who will censor anything they don't like. They do what you do and use scare tactics to try and censor freedom of religious expression.

They will say things like.... what if Satan worshipers want to display signs of witchcraft.

If our nation ever becomes majority Muslim or Satan Worshipers, worrying about religious symbols will be the least of our concerns.

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I am not offennnnnnnnnnnded by displays from any religion, Christian, or otherwise. If I don't like something, I just won't participate. I was thinking of interfaith dialogue, and how it relates to my Christian faith. If I want to preach Jesus to other people, I should give them the chance to say what they believe. I want to be clear: I believe Jesus is the ONLY way to be saved, BUT my Lord commands me, to love my neighbor, as I love myself, and do unto others, as I would have them do unto me. I do not agree with other religions, but I love and tolerate them, just as Jesus would, and does. I also feel all religious adherents willing to not be forceful, should be allowed to express their ideas. Why can't religious adherents just agree to disagree. "As much as possible, be at peace with all men (people", according to the Christian Bible. I want to apologize for not properly espousing this ideal. I have chronic back, and neck pain, which I am starting to treat with special excercizes, and I just got out of the hospital, where I had no choice, but to quit smoking.

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JamesDD(3) Disputed
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I believe Jesus is the ONLY way to be saved, BUT my Lord commands me, to love my neighbor, as I love myself, and do unto others, as I would have them do unto me.

But you don't obey those commands. Quite the opposite, in fact. You frequently attack me, curse at me, and you ban me from almost all of your debates simply because I disagree with the rubbish you write.

I think you are a deeply unwell individual.

Side: I AM
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What do you have to say about Jesus?........................................................................................................................................

Side: I'm NOT
JustAperson(15) Disputed
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I am not offennnnnnnnnnnded

You are an SJW who acts like your rights are being stripped away when someone uses their freedom of speech to criticize the things you say using your freedom of speech because you can't tell the difference between criticism of your stupidity and someone telling you that you don't have the right to be stupid. It's not that I don't think you have that right, I just think it's better to be intelligent.

Side: I AM
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Prove it. I am not a libtard bigot like you. I have every right to ban you, for ignoring introductory evidence.

Side: I'm NOT
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I'm not offended at all by displays of Christianity so long as they are in the right and proper place and so long as other religions are allowed to showcase their heritage as well. If a church wants to have a Nativity scene that's fabulous, if a household wants to have one that's fabulous, I actually enjoy seeing them. But if city hall has one then they need to provide the opportunity for other religions to exhibit as well. So long as that opportunity is extended, I see no reason for offense from anyone.

Side: I'm NOT
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Religion is ok for those who believe, it is only an essence of doctrine inspired of one man who discovered his own spiritual path.

It is not a trade-market for God's sake, so remove your posts and outreach packages from the sophisticated public :-), unless your organisation needs more members to increase tithe/offerings that generates excessive income for your hidden/gorging lifestyles :-)

Side: I AM