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At first, they blamed ANTIFA for the riot. Now, they EMBRACE it. Said it was GOOD.

Hello:

We're in trouble, People.  The "president" in exile LOVED it when his rioting hordes sacked the capital.  He AIN'T gonna stop there..  

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Define "they" because the sources that stated it was Antifa knowing lied about it because they knew this wasn't good. Then there are those who consumed this media and believed it without question. These people have a view of the world that everything bad that happens must have been done by a minority group or people of color. The last "they" would be the people who actually were rioting at the Capitol who think the riots were absolutely a great thing. These people include average Trump supporter all the way to extreme white nationalist and Nazi groups.

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At first, they blamed ANTIFA for the riot. Now, they EMBRACE it. Said it was GOOD.

You've said on this forum that you are the resistence. One would think you would applaud resistence if you really were the resistence.

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excon(15694) Disputed
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One would think you would applaud resistence if you really were the resistence.

Hello T:

Huh???

Like ice cream, there are many flavors of "resistance". In this case, I'm the resistance to the resistance..

excon

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I think you need to supply something that shows this to actually be fact Excon.

As it stands, we have no such indication that Trump loved it when the capitol was "sacked" or whatever false narrative that's being sold this time around. We also know that not all of them were actually "his" people, or anyone that really meant to do any harm. A large majority of them were even allowed into the building by security and just walked around, talking selfies with their friends, or even other police.

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MrClementine(83) Disputed
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As it stands, we have no such indication that Trump loved it when the capitol was "sacked" or whatever false narrative that's being sold this time around.

I don't believe that is true at all. All of these rioters turned up specifically because that is what Trump told them to do. And while he might not have explicitly called for violence, it was arguably implied by the language that he used. At least, the rioters certainly seemed to think so.

When thousands of people all react the same way to something, I do not believe you can reasonably declare that the something has nothing to do with the reaction. In fact I think that's an insane thing to imply and an insult to the intelligence of ordinary people.

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No, some turned for their own purposes. Others were allowed in the building because the guards opened the door for them, and they just milled about, taking selfies with those exact same guards.

As it stands we have some groups that we can point out for wrongdoing, the Oathkeepers being one, Antifa, and even some Boogaloo members as well. Though in retrospect, the Boogaloo movement is just as much an anti state group, as Antifa is. With only some minor differences between the two.

As it is, we know that Trump did not call for this violence to take place, and we know that he spoke out against it in the days to follow.

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"THEY" blame ANTIFA for everything. They even blamed them when "proud boys" and "3%ers" and other white trash organizations set fires at ANTIFA protests. Yep, something rotten is going on! Maybe if we legally "castrate" their dear leader it will simmer down ..... maybe.

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I hope the removal of his tiny little twitter castrated him.

This website is a close as I come to social media. I don't go near facebook or Twitter or any of the rest. It's just this and youtube for me. But even when I go on youtube and start poking around I find an astonishingly large about of radicalized right wing posts. These people are insane and there are tens of millions of them in this country. It's a Clown Army and it's extremely dangerous. They want to rip this country to shreds. If they have another riot and threaten out democracy again I want to see them made an example of and just mowed down. Yes, I want these domestic terrorists dealt with in the harshest manner possible. If we don't stand up to these cowardly thugs we're going to lose our democracy to the worst evil clown in history, Donald Trump.

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This website is a close as I come to social media. I don't go near facebook or Twitter or any of the rest.

Same here bro. I figure social media is for the new generation to make use of. Just interacting with others on a computer through text was science fiction when I was very young.

But even when I go on youtube and start poking around I find an astonishingly large about of radicalized right wing posts.

Yeah, unfortunately bad information spreads on the internet just as easily as good information. During the first ten years or so the predominant message on the internet was love. But I've seen that all change now it has been fully monetised.

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I totally agree, I don't even go to youtube. Most of my wife's family is even a part of the crazies, only two of mine as far as I know. I'm afraid I've lived through the best part of America .... the part when MOST WERE Americans! We still had our faults but we were working through the old "...isms". Today only a little over half are Americans today. Maybe if they attack again, we CAN thin them down a bit! Time to take off the kid gloves and keep America for Americans!

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