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Debate Score:144
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Banning people from debates

If you do this under any circumstances you're a little bitch. Simple as that. You're even more pathetic if you ban people then continue to respond to them over and over like you're somehow winning the debate when they can't respond to what you're saying. Seriously, how completely pathetic do you have to be to make a little safe space that acts as an echo chamber for yourself and your shitty fucking ideas? I'm looking at you Saintnow and From Within. You guys do realize this is a DEBATE site right? The whole point is to argue with people you disagree with. But you can't do that which to me is a pretty strong indicator that you guys are incapable of defending your garbage beliefs. And on some level you know how fucking stupid and weak your positions are. 

Makes you a bitch

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Stay out of my safespace!

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2 points

1) People who know how to debate don't need to censor opposition. Even if that opposition were to behave badly you still should have strong enough arguments to counter them without censoring them.

2) This is the ONLY debate website I've come across so far which indulges the debate creator with that kind of power. All the other sites functioned fine without it.

3) It essentially makes one person the judge, jury, and executioner. From a debate standpoint it is kangaroo court powers.

4) It is comparable to going to a gun range, shooting directly at other club members, and then taking all their guns and ammunition away while you continue to keep shooting at them.

5) The favorite retort to these arguments by the prime offenders is to stop whining. But the truth is those of us taking issue with the practice also have the ability to ban people on our own debates. We don't do it because we consider it wrong. Pointing out others doing it isn't whining, it's telling people demonstrating bad sportsmanship that they should be good sports instead, and then demonstrating with our own actions that we practice what we preach.

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I disagree that ANY time you ban somebody you are, as you so eloquently put it, a whining little bitch.

Oh, don't get me wrong, we have a few whining little bitches here who DO misuse the ban rule, and will enforce it for the most petty transgressions. Not even for transgressions, really, but for just disagreeing.

AintNow of course is the Queen of All Banning Bitches. Worse, he does something that makes a bitch look like a stud: PRE-ban! What the hell is that all about?

That said, I DO think there are some justifiable reasons for banning. Like a troll who continually drives by just to disrupt your debate, and offers no worthy input at all. Also going way off topic, especially after a warning, or what they call "hijacking" a debate is also I think a ban-worthy offense.

Like that little twit--I can't think of his name, but all he does is post about how keyboard warriors worry about the stupidest . wtf? how is he not banned from this entire forum, is what I would like to know. The mods need to run that little bitch out of town on a rail.

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1 point

I've used the word bitch so many times today, that it has lost it's meaning.

Side: Makes you a bitch
1 point

I should clarify. Obviously there are circumstances in which you should ban. If people are just flaming or trolling or spamming then yeah ban then. But so long as a person is addressing the content of the debate even if they're being inflamatory then they shouldn't be banned

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1 point

Thank you for absolutely proving my point. If banning people makes you a bitched then auto banning people makes you a pussy whipped mega baby-back bitch.

If you go on cuarocs debates all I've done is given substiantive responses to your debates. Yet you still have me and literally everyone else banned. Your debates are ghost towns because nobody wants to deal with your bullshit. Why do you even come to this site? To spew your garbage beliefs in debates that nobody participates in? Its funny how quick you are to criticise the "liberal" SJW PC crowd when you take a page right out of their book by banning anyone who disagrees with you. That is the height of hypocrisy.

Also yes you've banned me and the responded afterwards so don't even lie. And every debate you make just spews hate at left wing people so look in a mirror before you criticize others.

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instig8or(3308) Disputed
1 point

LOL, I debate people all the time who do not agree with me. I ban you and the deceptive idiots. Case closed.

I must really be saying some good stuff to have the extremists on the Left fighting so to debate my words, stalking my every debate. They are so insecure they even copy my debates! How paranoid and sick is that?

They can't stand allowing any conservative opinions disseminated to the masses. They must insult and tear down those speaking the truth at every chance. They copy debates just so they can insult opposing opinions. How paranoid they are.

Here's a newsflash, I have never once wanted to force people to listen to my opinions. If you don't want to hear what I have to say, that's your right to ban me from your own debate.

I am fine with being banned because I am not an insecure extremist. The thing of it is I am seldom banned because people know I actually try to give facts and examples of what I say and believe. I don't simply try to insult and attack opposing debators.

I won't be responding to anything else you say so please waste your time.

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1 point

If you do this under any circumstances you're a little bitch. Simple as that.

I believe your statement is a little too bland. For you say UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, so my question is. If someone were to be cyber bullying or getting personal within the debate toward you or any other user, would you not restrict their access?

You're even more pathetic if you ban people then continue to respond to them over and over like you're somehow winning the debate when they can't respond to what you're saying.

I also believe this is a debate site rather than a site to rant.

Seriously, how completely pathetic do you have to be to make a little safe space that acts as an echo chamber for yourself and your shitty fucking ideas? I'm looking at you Saintnow and From Within. You guys do realize this is a DEBATE site right?

I could almost ask you the same question. Why rant about it and look like a child by swearing to your hearts content and then naming people. Rather than stating something a bit more like this.

Whatever would be the point of restricting the access of someone simply due to their personal biases and beliefs?

It isnt very hard not to sound belligerent.

The whole point is to argue with people you disagree with.

Argue and Debate, while simialar, are indeed different.

But you can't do that which to me is a pretty strong indicator that you guys are incapable of defending your garbage beliefs. And on some level you know how fucking stupid and weak your positions are.

100% True, I agree with a lot said here besides the belligerence shown and the blandness of the first statement.

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2 points

Why is it Progressives want to shut down free speech when they are opposed ? Is opposition offensive to them ?

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AveSatanas(4433) Disputed
1 point

Well ive never banned you and i dont believe any other liberals on this site have dispite what little value you bring to any discussion. So im not sure why youre claiming that youre having your free speech stifled. Saintnow and FromWithin on the other hand are VERY conservative and ban dozens of people between the two of them....so the evidence would appear that free speech is offensive to YOUR kind and YOU think opposition is offensive

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Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

You're a foul mouth who completely lost composure with me when unable to answer my points, a total failure in debating me after your head exploded in profanity, and I'm not interested any more in your stuff because it's full of bitterness and I don't need it.

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1 point

People should be allowed to ban. I had a certain user call me a rapist, say I deserve to be raped, and I don't think I should be forced to deal with him.

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AveSatanas(4433) Clarified
1 point

I should clarify. Obviously there are circumstances in which you should ban. If people are just flaming or trolling or spamming then yeah ban then. But so long as a person is addressing the content of the debate even if they're being inflamatory then they shouldn't be banned

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Sitar(3680) Clarified
1 point

Thank you for clarifying. I share some of your concerns. How do you feel about temporary bans?

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Saintnow(3684) Disputed
0 points

you cry babies crack me up.......come in and act like a buffoon not discussing the things the debate creator wants to discuss, trying to take over, insulting repeatedly, then you cry about getting banned? Boo hoo.

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1 point

Honestly I wouldn't ban someone just because they disagree, that's the whole point of debating. But there are some people who need to be banned due to either personal insults or an inability to act in a manner benefiting the debate.

But then I also think people that bitch about getting banned are just as bad.

Side: Stay out of my safespace!
-1 points

Gee, the fool speaks!

What a shock, he spews lies!

I try to never address this idiot because he is a rude, foul mouth insulting moron. He has been on my auto ban list for a long time.

So for him to say I keep saying things after I ban him is a complete joke. I do everything in my power to avoid his hate filled rhetoric towards conservatives and Christians.

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AveSatanas(4433) Disputed
2 points

Thank you for absolutely proving my point. If banning people makes you a bitched then auto banning people makes you a pussy whipped mega baby-back bitch.

If you go on cuarocs debates all I've done is given substiantive responses to your debates. Yet you still have me and literally everyone else banned. Your debates are ghost towns because nobody wants to deal with your bullshit. Why do you even come to this site? To spew your garbage beliefs in debates that nobody participates in? Its funny how quick you are to criticise the "liberal" SJW PC crowd when you take a page right out of their book by banning anyone who disagrees with you. That is the height of hypocrisy.

Also yes you've banned me and the responded afterwards so don't even lie. And every debate you make just spews hate at left wing people so look in a mirror before you criticize others.

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FromWithin(8242) Disputed
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LOL, I debate people all the time who do not agree with me. I ban you and the deceptive idiots. Case closed.

I must really be saying some good stuff to have the extremists on the Left fighting so to debate my words, stalking my every debate. They are so insecure they even copy my debates! How paranoid and sick is that?

They can't stand allowing any conservative opinions disseminated to the masses. They must insult and tear down those speaking the truth at every chance. They copy debates just so they can insult opposing opinions. How paranoid they are.

Here's a newsflash, I have never once wanted to force people to listen to my opinions. If you don't want to hear what I have to say, that's your right to ban me from your own debate.

I am fine with being banned because I am not an insecure extremist. The thing of it is I am seldom banned because people know I actually try to give facts and examples of what I say and believe. I don't simply try to insult and attack opposing debators.

I won't be responding to anything else you say so please waste your time.

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