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Debate Score:30
Arguments:35
Total Votes:30
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Being everything does not mean being nothing

by saying god is everything, ergo, he must be nothing, is false.

Nothing is no thing, so everything excludes, no thing, because it is not a thing.

therefore god is everything except no thing

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Side Score: 15
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Side Score: 15
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I see nothing as being something, i doubt anyone could tell me what nothing is. Perhaps to have every attribute of everything turns out to be nothing. Those to things are undefined so maybe they do coincide.

Side: yes

If God is everything imaginable, and unimaginable, and he is every single fiber possible and impossible, then that means everything is God, and it's virtually the same as nothing being God. Nothing is special if it's everything.

Think about it this way, if everyone is rich, then how can you say anyone is really rich, when everyone's on the same level. It doesn't make them poor, but they're not rich with out being compared to something. Same with if everyone was poor.

Side: no
1 point

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing

God can not be the absence of himself, well, if you want to get way into religious chitter chatter, he actually could be the absence of himself, and have become all of us

But what I am trying to explain is every thing, means everything (sorry) so how can you involve nothing in everything when there is no thing to involve with every thing?

Side: yes
Nox0(1393) Disputed
1 point

The are of "nothingless" would be surrounded by his presence so it would became something anyway.

Side: no
Quocalimar(6469) Disputed
1 point

I don't think you understand the analogy. How can you call anything holy, with everything being holy, thus having no comparison?

Side: no

Just to clarify, when you say God is everything, do you mean everything ?

Because evil, bad, horrible, terrible, horrifying and vile is something.

Also a murderer, rapist, pedophile, mugger and terrorist is something

Retarded, handicapped, schizophrenic and idiotic is also something.

If you claim your God to be ''everything'', don't forget that includes stuff you probably wouldn't describe your God to be.

I know this doesn't answer the question, but I just wanted to show you that no one can be everything. You can't be an idiot and a genius at the same time.

Side: no
1 point

God is not a person so half of your argument just flew out the window, god is energy, and energy is everything, energy makes up everything, good and evil (spiritually speaking) are energy types. we have to embrace both sides, we have to have evil in order to know what good is

Side: yes
1 point

God is not a person so half of your argument just flew out the window,

Lol no. Didn't you just say God is everything? A person is something.

Side: no
sauh(1106) Disputed
1 point

You can't be an idiot and a genius at the same time.

What about an idiot savant?

Side: yes
shoutoutloud(4302) Clarified
1 point

I actually want to take that back. I believe you can be an idiot and a genius at the same time. I can be a genius in one thing, and a total idiot in another thing.

But let me make a better example then. Christians claim God is everlasting - if he is everything, that makes him dying too. It is impossible in all ways to be a dying everlasting person.

Side: yes
1 point

Are you high? I want some of that endo weed. ;)

Side: no