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I see nothing as being something, i doubt anyone could tell me what nothing is. Perhaps to have every attribute of everything turns out to be nothing. Those to things are undefined so maybe they do coincide.
If God is everything imaginable, and unimaginable, and he is every single fiber possible and impossible, then that means everything is God, and it's virtually the same as nothing being God. Nothing is special if it's everything.
Think about it this way, if everyone is rich, then how can you say anyone is really rich, when everyone's on the same level. It doesn't make them poor, but they're not rich with out being compared to something. Same with if everyone was poor.
God can not be the absence of himself, well, if you want to get way into religious chitter chatter, he actually could be the absence of himself, and have become all of us
But what I am trying to explain is every thing, means everything (sorry) so how can you involve nothing in everything when there is no thing to involve with every thing?
i didnt say everything was holy, my beliefs are solidified in evil and holy, dark and light, the comparison is taking a life (evil) to giving a life (holy)
And dont go off saying so a rapist impregnating a woman is holy?
no, your analogy does not match up with what i am trying to say, i know exactly what you are trying to tell me, but it does not work with how im describing my position
Just to clarify, when you say God is everything, do you mean everything ?
Because evil, bad, horrible, terrible, horrifying and vile is something.
Also a murderer, rapist, pedophile, mugger and terrorist is something
Retarded, handicapped, schizophrenic and idiotic is also something.
If you claim your God to be ''everything'', don't forget that includes stuff you probably wouldn't describe your God to be.
I know this doesn't answer the question, but I just wanted to show you that no one can be everything. You can't be an idiot and a genius at the same time.
God is not a person so half of your argument just flew out the window, god is energy, and energy is everything, energy makes up everything, good and evil (spiritually speaking) are energy types. we have to embrace both sides, we have to have evil in order to know what good is
I never said the world is pure joy, I said these things are intricate parts of life, and they happen, people will rape even if the majority of the population says rape is bad, it is still going to happen, people will kill even when we disagree with it
stop mixing my words, I never said god is a being, its an energy, energy creates everything, if you cant fathom the fact that rape happens in life, then move on to another argument, otherwise, stop trying to mince what im trying to say, you know damned well what im trying to say, but you don't want to face it
and the point is, its going to happen, yes it is horrible, but it builds strength, sure its a traumatizing experience, but you can grow from it, unless you choose to not grow from it and buld a seething hatred for the world which in turn will change you to the very thing you say is bad.
how can you disagree with killing? simple, you just say its not appropriate, and I didn't say its not appropriate, sometimes murder is necessary
Mixing your words? You said God is everything, then you changed it to energy, then you said everything is energy - evil is something, ergo God is evil.
you know damned well what im trying to say, but you don't want to face it
Honestly, no I don't know what you're trying to say. You can explain it to me if you want to. I will face it when I know what you say, I won't promise I agree with you though.
how can you disagree with killing? simple, you just say its not appropriate, and I didn't say its not appropriate, sometimes murder is necessary
Then you think killing is inappropriate, you can't disagree with killing, since killing itself doesn't have opinions or morals.
please, you need to understand, that when i say god, i do NOT mean god in any religious sense WHATSOEVER AT ALL i am sorry to get snappy at you but how many times will i have to tell you i do NOT think that god is a being or a person or any other common term you will put on that word, STOP getting so defensive about the word god, it is a WORD.
ive explained what i said 3 or 4 ties already to you, but you fail to see what i am saying.
Yes, killing and taking a life is inappropriate, but so is slutty little outfits on teenage girls but society seems to have no problem with it anymore
i do NOT mean god in any religious sense WHATSOEVER AT ALL
How can you mean a non-religious God, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
i do NOT think that god is a being or a person or any other common term you will put on that word, STOP getting so defensive about the word god, it is a WORD.
Let me ask you a question - when did I say you said God is a being?
I said you said God is everything, I never mentioned anything about a being.
I simply said, your own words - God is everything, then you changed it to ''energy'', then you said energy is everything, and evil is something, thus is energy evil, since God is energy he must be evil.
ive explained what i said 3 or 4 ties already to you, but you fail to see what i am saying.
Obviously
Yes, killing and taking a life is inappropriate, but so is slutty little outfits on teenage girls but society seems to have no problem with it anymore
Lol, I don't know how that has anything to do with it.
I just said you can't say ''I disagree with killing'', you can use other words to mke the message you want like ''I don't think killing is okay''.
About the outfit thing, society shouldn't care how you dress, it's your own liberty to express yourself through creative ways, like clothing.
Let me ask you a question - when did I say you said God is a being?
You didn't but you are trying to tell me that i am saying that god has to be a person, and i said its not, but then i said you are right, because "god" or whatever you want to call it, is in all of us, then you said how can god be in rapists etc... and i said because they are a part of life and without them we wouldnt know good from bad, even though i said good and bad are not realy good or bad, that's just humans putting morals on things
Animals dont think of things as good or bad, so why do humans? When a antelope is grazing in the fields and a lion comes and takes it away all the other antelope just dont care. Sure, some animals show emotion, like elephants, but even still, animals are perfecty fine being around each other unless one of them is hungry, and then its not even bad its just the circle of life
You didn't but you are trying to tell me that i am saying that god has to be a person
And when exactly did I do that? Seriously I've been talking about energy, God and everything - you brought up the being/person thing. I never said anything about that.
Here's how the real conversation between you and me went:
Me: And life is energy, and energy is God, so god is rape?
You: I never said god is a being
Me: You said God is everything, then you changed it to energy, then you said everything is energy - evil is something, ergo God is evil.
You: i do NOT think that god is a being or a person
Me: Let me ask you a question - when did I say you said God is a being?
You: You didn't but you are trying to tell me that i am saying that god has to be a person
I don't know about you, but this makes no sense to me. I've talked about energy the whole times and you keep telling me to stop claiming you saying God is a person, you don't make sense.
Fine, youre right, but yes, there is god in every person, animal, thing, in the universe, the stars, the planets, they are all a representation of god, god has a wrathful side, god has a crazy side, god is illogical, yet logical at the same time
I thought you were a hippy? A hippie is close with god, fyi
Fine, youre right, but yes, there is god in every person, animal, thing, in the universe, the stars, the planets, they are all a representation of god, god has a wrathful side, god has a crazy side, god is illogical, yet logical at the same time
I'm sure that makes sense if you believe in such things :)
I thought you were a hippy? A hippie is close with god, fyi
I don't see myself as a hippie .. but hippie is close to a God .. what? I don't agree with that, but whatever :)
I actually want to take that back. I believe you can be an idiot and a genius at the same time. I can be a genius in one thing, and a total idiot in another thing.
But let me make a better example then. Christians claim God is everlasting - if he is everything, that makes him dying too. It is impossible in all ways to be a dying everlasting person.