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I love sea food....so much Eat Veggies
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Better for health:Being a vegetarian or a pescatarian

I love sea food....so much

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Eat Veggies

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2 points

I disagree with both because nutrition and diet are completely unique to each person. You can't make a blanket statement that it's better for "human health" to be a vegetarian or not. Some people have anemia disorders that require a very large intake of iron and must consume meat to get the adequate amounts. Some people have food allergies that don't let them eat things like peanuts, or dairy, or gluten. Some people have disorders that increase their LDL cholesterol in their blood regardless of what they eat (LDL is the "bad" one, by the way), whereas other people can eat a Big Mac every day and be fine. Diet is extremely subjective- extremely.

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HarvardGrad(174) Disputed
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1: They have iron pills and injections for this.

2: the nutrition you get from meat comes from the plant that animal eats (which is why we typically don't eat carnivorous animals, except sea creatures).

3: peanut products are not essential to ones dies, so if you eat nothing but plain fruits and veggies and no peanuts you will be fine. Simple.

4: the person eating big macks will not be fine. They may burn the fat off more effectively than others but their internal organs will not be so healthy. It's like saying "some people can eat uranium and drink gas and bleach and still be fine," or perhaps a less gross exemplification: it's like saying some people have no negative side effects from smoking. Just because some can smoke till they're 100 doesn't mean the body had 0 side effects from the smoke they inhaled. Some things are just not possible and objectively unhealthy.

So, I wouldn't be so quick to assert "extreme" subjectivity for health.

Side: Eat Veggies
MKIced(2488) Clarified
2 points

Iron was one example of many. That being said, if I develop an anemic issue, I'm not likely to take a supplement and I would never take an injection unless it was an emergency. Just because there are other ways to get supplements like iron doesn't mean those ways are better. It's found in many vegetables, but not everyone likes the taste of vegetables or the accessibility. For example, I'm living in the caribbean right now and the local grocery stores don't have the same produce selection I'm used to. And when I do find the vegetables I want, they're twice the price I would pay in the states, whereas meat is about comparable with American prices.

Of course nutrition from meat is derived from plant matter- without the plants, the animal wouldn't survive to become a meal. But a cow, for example, eats grass mostly to grow to a healthy size. We can't digest grass at all. Obviously there are other examples that support both of our views, but all I'm saying is that nutrition from meat is inherently different than from the plants they eat.

Peanuts were, again, a single example. I know you can live without peanuts or their byproducts- that wasn't the point. The point was that many people have food allergies and sometimes several food allergies. I knew a girl who had Celiac disease, a soy allergy, and I believe 4 other fruit/vegetable allergies. She couldn't give up meat because of the severe limits of her diet.

And if you read my sentence about the McDonald's comment, it was about cholesterol only. No one in their right mind would suggest eating fast food as a healthy diet, but there are people out there who don't have high cholesterol no matter how much they eat. That's all I was saying.

Ultimately, there can be diets that are healthy and vegetarian. There are diets that are healthy and contain meat. I stand by the idea that diet is subjective.

Side: I love sea food....so much

Well there's no denying the fact that veggies have their nutritional value but again you need something extra ,well it can be eggs,fishes,mutton but in case of mutton,well not many eat red meat,eggs have too much of proteins so what's left-fishes certainly with the variety available in the coastal regions of America,Australia,Finland,being a pescatarian is a new trend,well accepted by many including Brad Pitt,Chris Hemsworth,Laura Kreuk and so many.

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HarvardGrad(174) Disputed
1 point

Why do you necessarily need extra aside from fruits and vegetables?

Side: Eat Veggies
1 point

An ovovegetarian lifestyle is better because the animal does not have to die or lactate.

Side: Eat Veggies
Atrag(5538) Disputed
1 point

He said better for health. What do you have to say about that?

Side: I love sea food....so much
1 point

A vegetarian lifestyle is still typically better for health, at least when done right. The problem is so many people don't keep it balanced. But it does involve foods that are easier for the human body to digest, and have less bad fats and such that can cause health problems. This is assuming, of course, that there are no underlying health issues that would indicate the necessity for another diet, such as chronic anemia, Parkinson's, or so forth.

Side: Eat Veggies
Amritangshu(892) Disputed
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Oh really,the egg has to die,you're not allowing it to mature ,besides you've to see your health,too much of proteins is not that good,is it?

Side: I love sea food....so much
Sitar(3682) Disputed
2 points

You are wrong. The egg is only living if it is fertilized. Eggs that are not fertilized are NOT living creatures. You need to debate the scientific facts.

Side: Eat Veggies
1 point

When we remove the fads and fantasies about what is good what is not, what is ethical what is not, the bottom line is moderation.

No matter how we look at it what our bodies need is broken down into the basic five food groups protein, vegetables, fruit, dairy products and carbohydrates that are available to us on this planet.

So how we make sure that we have what our bodies need is based on a balance of these food groups and which ones within these groups we decide to eat, so that the machine which is our body gets what it needs in the quantities it needs for the lifestyle we choose.

No matter what our gender the harder we live or work the more fuel we need.

Those in the developed world that are obese and suffer chronic diseases are usually that way because they consume more than their bodies need. Also, it is not necessarily what we eat, because what society sees as "good" food can be just as harmful as what society sees as "bad" food if we eat too much of it.

For example - extra virgin olive oil is fat, honey is sugar, etc etc.

It's horse for courses and there is no one size fits all except we all need a balance of the five available food groups in a balanced quantity for who we are, what we do and what we need.

Which foods we choose to eat, is our choice, it is the balance we need to be aware of. Too much of any food group is not healthy, we need a sensible range so we get the balance right that provides the right fuel for our body's needs.

End of story.

Side: Eat Veggies
1 point

This is totally accurate. I had a friend who gained ten pounds as a vegetarian. It isn't an automatic fix.

Side: Eat Veggies