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Trump Obama
Debate Score:29
Arguments:28
Total Votes:33
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Better for jobs?

Which administration is/was better for jobs?

Trump

Side Score: 14
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Obama

Side Score: 15
1 point

Take a listen to your BOY OBAMA !!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKpso3vhZtw

Side: Trump
1 point

LITTLE LEFTIST can you HANDLE the TRUTH ??????????????

Let’s start with the most comprehensive measure of the economy, Gross Domestic Product (GDP). Since mid-2009, the economy adjusted for inflation has grown at a 2.1% annual pace. This pace places it as the worst economic recovery in the post-WWII era – slower that the 2.8% rate of the George W. Bush recovery, the 3.6% rate of Bill Clinton’s recovery or the 4.3 % pace of the recovery during the term of George H. W. Bush.

Another important metric for an economy is productivity growth. Most economists believe that productivity growth is important for wage growth, an improving standard of living and a stronger potential rate of economic growth. Since mid-2009, productivity growth has averaged 1.0% at an annual rate. This pace is not only the slowest of any expansion in the post-war era but is less than half the rate of growth of any expansion except for the expansion following the 1974 downturn which averaged 1.7%.

https://www.uschamber.com/above-the-fold/obama-s-economic-legacy-just-the-facts

DUMMY where is the 5 percent you made reference too ??????????????

Side: Trump
1 point

The second quarter of 2014 - just like I said.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A191RL1Q225SBEA

Side: Obama

"the average monthly gain under Trump is 189,000 jobs, which is nearly 13 percent below the monthly average of 217,000 during Obama’s second term"

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/07/trumps-numbers-second-quarterly-update/

Side: Obama
1 point

There are actual books that describe left wing media propaganda techniques. I particularly like this one.

"If the economy continues on this path it could enter a recession when few are forecasting one."

Side: Trump
Nom_Chomsky(846) Disputed
1 point

There are actual books that describe left wing media propaganda techniques.

You've got to love him. He says shit like this while he literally has a copy of Mein Kampf open on his lap.

Side: Obama
1 point

Nevertheless, there's nothing funner than debunking a media outlet by using itself to debunk itself.

Trump's Economy Keeps Humming: Manufacturing Adding More Jobs Than Government, Reversing Obama Trend

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2019/04/05/trumps-economy-keeps-humming-manufacturing-adding-more-jobs-than-government-reversing-obama-trend/amp/

Unemployment rate is getting about as low as it can go

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2018/07/ 27/trumps-economic-scorecard-18-months-into-his-presidency/amp/

Side: Trump
Nom_Chomsky(846) Disputed
2 points

Nevertheless, there's nothing funner than debunking a media outlet by using itself to debunk itself.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2019/04/05/trumps-economy-keeps-humming-manufacturing-adding-more-jobs-than-government-reversing-obama-trend/amp/

Your problem being that the link debunks you, not itself:-

Overall, comparing President Trump’s first 27 months of key employment data to the last 27 months under President Obama shows a continuation of employment growth, the kind often seen in the mature stages of a business cycle, with 5,860,000 nonfarm jobs added during Obama’s last 27 months compared to 5,373,000 under Trump’s first 27 months.

Private sector employment also compares similarly over the same period, with 5,453,000 jobs added to private sector payrolls in Obama’s last 27 months in office compared to 5,158,000 during a comparable period under Trump.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2019/04/05/trumps-economy-keeps-humming-manufacturing-adding-more-jobs-than-government-reversing-obama-trend/#2a104f031eb7

Side: Obama
1 point

You are a neo nazi, half witted wiggly doodling Yank you bloody fascist Jew.

But your data and observation are fully correct.

Side: Trump

Under which president did the stock market rise more during the first 27 months of his presidency? Under which did the unemployment rate decline more? How about GDP growth per president?

Obama

https://www.minnpost.com/eric-black-ink/2019/05/on-the-economy-obama-owns-trump/

Side: Obama
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

It’s official.

With Thursday’s final revision of fourth-quarter GDP growth to 2.1 percent from its previous 1.9 percent level, President Obama is the only president since Herbert Hoover to not have guided the US economy to 3 percent growth in any year he was in office.

The US economy grew 1.6 percent in 2016 from the previous years, according to the Commerce Department, which tracks GDP.

Obama’s best year, as far as growing the economy, was 2015 when it grew 2.6 percent from 2014 — after growing 2.4 percent that year from 2013.

https://nypost.com/2017/03/30/gdp-growth-under-obama-was-worst-in-decades/

The link is definitively from a LEFT LEANING source !!!!!!!!!

Side: Trump
1 point

"to not have guided the US economy to 3 percent growth"

Maybe you want to wait to make that argument until Trump actually gets a year with 3% growth...

2017 : 2.2%

2018 : 2.9%

ref

Side: Obama