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Big Bang Theory vs God's Creation

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2 points

I believe God did create the universe. However, I don't believe in the literal translation of the Bible. The Bible was written at a time when a day was not defined in 24 hour terms. Toss in human translation over the years, and I believe the time line issue has become greatly distorted and misunderstood.

Why couldn't there have been a "big bang"? Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, why couldn't God have decided to have a little fun with a chemical reaction? None of us was there, so how can the fundamentalist religious people stand and judge those who have a different belief when it comes to the how and when. Plus, there is so much lost in translation over thousands of years. Who can say for sure it was 7 days, 24 hours. That concept of a week/day is much younger than the Bible.

I feel there is too much emphasis on how God created the universe and the time line. What does it matter if it took 7 days, only 5,000 years ago or whether it took millions of years?

We should be more concerned with why? What is it God wants me to do in this life? What is my purpose? What lessons does He want me to learn in order to develop my soul and spiritual self.`

Side: Mixture of Big Bang and Creation
LibertyU2012(8) Disputed
1 point

Why do you question a day in Genesis? What is your definition of a Day?

Is it a Morning, Evening, and Night represented by lightness and Darkness. If so you need to take a closer look at Genesis 1:1. Oh and something else that I thought was cool. It also mentions the marks of seasons, days, Nights, and years.Genesis 1:14 also a week was based off the 7 day creation as well. Why shouldn't we be concerned with Why. If someone can't believe in Genesis 1:1 how can we as Christians expect them to believe the rest of the Bible. Plus Jesus also referenced the 7 day creation on more than one occasion.

Side: Mixture of Big Bang and Creation
aveskde(1935) Disputed
1 point

Is it a Morning, Evening, and Night represented by lightness and Darkness. If so you need to take a closer look at Genesis 1:1. Oh and something else that I thought was cool. It also mentions the marks of seasons, days, Nights, and years.Genesis 1:14 also a week was based off the 7 day creation as well.

Which as it turns out, the creation was a myth.

Why shouldn't we be concerned with Why

Because there is none. Our universe has no purpose behind it and therefore no why.

If someone can't believe in Genesis 1:1 how can we as Christians expect them to believe the rest of the Bible. Plus Jesus also referenced the 7 day creation on more than one occasion.

Right. Which can only mean the entire bible is the work of men, not gods and angels.

Side: Mixture of Big Bang and Creation
Bohemian(3861) Disputed
1 point

And how do we measure morning, evening, and night if according to genesis, the sun was not created until the 4th day?

Side: Big Bang
2 points

big bang = heaps of evidence and makes sense when you think about it

God's creation = a book and pure faith.

although sometimes i think there must be some sort of god i do believe in the big bang theory

Side: Big Bang
LibertyU2012(8) Disputed
1 point

I got a question, Were did the matter that exploded come from?

Albert Einstein once said this about science, "Science is a matter of pure faith and not of the evidence that isn't there." Is Christianity any different.

Side: Big Bang
aveskde(1935) Disputed
1 point

I got a question, Were did the matter that exploded come from?

It didn't explode. We're talking about existing mass expanding along with space and time, then condensing into matter.

It changes nothing anyway because the big bang is based on hard evidence. Even if we had no idea where mass comes from, we still know it took place.

Albert Einstein once said this about science, "Science is a matter of pure faith and not of the evidence that isn't there." Is Christianity any different.

Science doesn't work in prophets and authorities, it works on evidence. Quoting someone doesn't make an argument.

Side: Big Bang
gkincer(2) Disputed
1 point

First of all the big bang does not have a ton of evidence behind it. If you think about it, it take a lot more faith to believe the big bang than it does the Bible. The big bang is based off of "everything is created from nothing". The big bang says that matter explode and gravity pulled it back together to make the plants, stars, and galaxies. Where did the matter come from? Where did the gravity come from? It the big bang theory all of the planets have to be spinning the same way for it to be true. Uranus spins backwards so there for planets could not have been made that way. When people say "When you look at the bone structures in similar animals you see a common design so therefore it must have a common ancestor". Actually that just proves that everything had a common Creator. Have you ever wondered why scientist say that the big bang was millions and billions years ago? Because they can't prove anything and they don't want anyone else to know that. Many other things that were recorded in the Bible have been proven. The Israelite's escaping Egypt while the Egyptian chased them on chariots? In the Bible it says the Egyptians drowned with their chariots. Researchers have found Egyptian chariots at the bottom of the Red Sea. Yes the Bible take faith to believe, but don't just believe "science" because everyone else does. Think about the facts or what they call facts

Side: Big Bang
1 point

I was wondering who believes in the Big Bang theory compared to God's creation. I personally believe in God & what the Bible tells me. I also believe God could have created the Big Bang theory. I find it hard to believe that this matter was just floating around & all of a sudden exploded creating the universe. I believe something would have had to start it.

Side: Big Bang
xaeon(1093) Disputed
3 points

Using that logic, what created god? If you fall back on "god has always existed," then what makes god so different that he is allowed to have always existed, yet the universe is not?

Side: Big Bang
1 point

No... cos god is MAGIC.... /sarcasm

Side: Big Bang
1 point

I was once in the same boat as you. Check out Kim Hams web site Answersingenesis.org to help you further to help guide you. Reread Genesis 1 to help answer more questions.

Side: Big Bang
aveskde(1935) Disputed
2 points

I was once in the same boat as you. Check out Kim Hams web site Answersingenesis.org to help you further to help guide you. Reread Genesis 1 to help answer more questions.

Yeah, that's a propaganda website. If you use critical thinking, you'll see that it's a scam.

Side: Big Bang
Bohemian(3861) Disputed
1 point

Answersingenesis.org is a great place to go if you like half-truths, and quote-mines. Whenever I see a quote-mine it almost always comes from this website. If you see someone quoting an expert who is arguing against something that we know they believe, you should be extremely suspicious.

Side: Big Bang
1 point

Well, Big Bang is a strange theory with more than enough holes... but, I don't believe God created everything... because it doesn't have anything to back it up.

if i had to choose, i'd choose Big Bang. but i have no problem with ALTERNATIVE theories... maybe some philosophy people?

Side: Think Philosophy
1 point

I suggest a good browsing of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaotic_inflation for understanding what the theory actually entails, as well as hypothetical models using accepted physics (no string theory) of generating a Big Bang and what exists outside the Universe.

Most people who say they "believe" or "don't believe" do so because they don't understand what they're talking about. Also, the definition of "theory" changes from discipline to discipline, so let me just state that the Big Bang itself is /fact/ - our mathematical understanding and historical extrapolations are part of a larger /theory/ which seeks to explain the factual observations we make. Chaotic inflation uses accepted and physically-factual mathematical /theory/ to make a /hypothesis/ as to the origins of the universe.

There is no consensus as to whether or not such a hypothesis can ever become part of the larger cosmological theory, as there are philosophical and mathematical questions still unresolved (one is the validity of Anthropic reasoning).

Supporting Evidence: Wikipedia's Big Bang (en.wikipedia.org)
Side: Big Bang
LibertyU2012(8) Disputed
1 point

Since when have you ever seen or even heard of anything exploding and creating perfectly round objects, such as planets and stars.

Side: Big Bang
aveskde(1935) Disputed
3 points

Since when have you ever seen or even heard of anything exploding and creating perfectly round objects, such as planets and stars.

Space has no direction and when mass enters it it will condense towards the most massive objects. A sphere occurs because matter will try to "fall" into the centre of the most massive object.

Side: Big Bang
Bohemian(3861) Disputed
1 point

All matter has it's own gravity, the greater the mass the greater the collective effect of it's gravity. In space, objects are pulled towards each other by their gravitational force, thus giving them even more gravitational force, and being able to pull even more objects. It's a snowball effect, essentially. The reason objects in space are spherical is because gravity pulls equally towards the center of mass in all directions, this gives you a ball shape.

Side: Big Bang
1 point

so yes big bang theory for me

Side: Big Bang

I personally dont believe in the big bang theory. This world is a work of art and wasnt made by accident. There had to be a creeator, a purpose for life and personally the planets are aligned perfectly and well we humans are made so uniquely. I definately would have to go with God on this one.

Side: Big Bang
1 point

I dont see what the problem is?

The universe was not created by god. why is that such a conterversal question? i mean the hubble telescope has shown us amasing pictures of nebulars where stars are born and loads of planets with hundred of moons, but not one guy sat on a cloud firing lightning and sending his son do to drive out the romans from jerulasim by the way he didint do that.

and just cause somthing has an intelagent deshine does not mean it was created by some all knowing force, the universe factors in one thing. luck. it is pure look that we were created, pure look that we evolved the way we did im not saying give up your ideals im just saying factoring evrey possabilaty.

P.S im dislexyic so some things might be spelled wrong.

Side: Big Bang
1 point

I am a Follower of God and a creationist. First of all y'all are all saying big bang has all this proof but u fail at telling us what the prove really is. Second where did all the matter come from in the first place? Stuff doesn't just show up and "explode". For those of u saying that the Bible is full of lies, how come events talk about in the bible are proven to have happened?

Side: Creation
1 point

One inescapable clue that points me in the direction of a divine creator rather than big bang theory is that everything we know in this world is "contingent," has a cause outside of itself. (The Reason for God by Timothy Keller, p. 129) The universe had to have had a noncontingent beginning. Everything we see came from something or someone. That means there HAD to be a something or someone that wasn't contingent on any other something or someone. This doesn't prove that the God of the Bible exists, but it does push me to believe that there is, at least, a God who created the universe rather than the universe creating itself.

Side: Creation
0 points

I for one believe in GOD but i do have interest in the universe and its beginning. First the Big Bang Theory has many holes whereas the bible backs itself up. Second these "holes" are the following

1- If there once was only one tiny mass holding all things before the explosion, how come the elements that are reactive react.

2- If there was no space and time how is everything slowing down now. An explosion wouldn't make time.

3- If it was under so much pressure wouldn't it implode?

4- Why was there one mass surrounded by completely nothing. What would cause the pressure then?

5th and final- Space is silent it wouldn't make a bang.

Also, something to think about is that if we were 5% closer to the sun we would burn to death and if we were 5% further from the sun we would freeze to death. How can an explosion make something so perfect.

Side: Big Bang
Bohemian(3861) Disputed
1 point

1- If there once was only one tiny mass holding all things before the explosion, how come the elements that are reactive react.

No, because most of the elements were not created until after the big bang.

2- If there was no space and time how is everything slowing down now. An explosion wouldn't make time.

The big bang was a rapid expansion of space-time. It was not an explosion.

3- If it was under so much pressure wouldn't it implode?

There is no where to implode to, maximum density has been achieved.

4- Why was there one mass surrounded by completely nothing. What would cause the pressure then?

It's not pressure it's Gravity.

5th and final- Space is silent it wouldn't make a bang.

Correct.

Side: Big Bang
0 points

i think god created the world not just some stupid big bang people who thinks the world was created by the big bang theory are stupid dumb and not a Christan

Side: Big Bang