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Braveheart Gladiator
Debate Score:27
Total Votes:29
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 Braveheart (8)
 Gladiator (5)

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Braveheart vs. Gladiator

Who would win in a fight?


Side Score: 13


Side Score: 14
3 points

Wallace went up against the English Army with no heavy cavalry and outnumbered 4 to 1 and still won. Maximus was a great General, although I have to say that he could not last five minutes in a fight with William Wallace. FREEDOM!!!!!!

2 points

William Wallace is the man....He would outsmart Russel crowe everyday of the week!!!

Side: Braveheart
1 point

Are you f-ing sh-ting me?;=related;=related

Top three kick ass balls to the wall action movies in order are 300, Braveheart, and Gladiator. At this bar I go to now and then they have TV's showing the real just kick ass clips while playing ACDC and other cool rock. It's crazy, I love it. Not a very peaceful place though as you might imagine.

Side: Braveheart

The William Wallace speech is one of the greatest speeches in film. "They may take our lives, but they'll they never will´╗┐ take our freedom.

Side: Braveheart
1 point

Braveheart is a better movie.

1) It came first. This is simple. I believe Ridley Scott even said that he was influenced by some of the camera jerks and shots in Bravheart.

2) It is more influential. Like I said with Ridley Scott, countless other directors have said they were influenced by the film -- Steven Spielberg (for Saving Private Ryan) is a notable example.

3) Its emotional intensity is much stronger. This is mainly thanks to the music from James Horner, which is regarded as one of the best soundtracks of all time, but also the reason is Mel Gibson's directing. The scene after Stirling Bridge was made to perfection. It was profoundly bittersweet: Wallace's bloody face, and the dying men, coupled with the beautiful music and cries of victory from Wallace/his men was a very strong scene in particular that I don't think any point in Gladiator matched.

4) It had better characters. Maximus wanted revenge and was hurt by his family's death, but beyond that, the characters were pretty dull. With Bravheart on the other hand, you have Wallace's deep need of freedom mucking through all of the deceit and blood, Robert the Bruce's conflicted loyalties, Longshanks' awareness and indifference to the fact that he's heartless, etc.

Side: Braveheart
1 point

Braveheart is a greater movie than Gladiator, William Wallace i think had more passion for what he was fighting 4 than Maximus.


Side: Braveheart
5 points

Maximus would definitely dominate William Wallace. Wallace, while definitely a badass himself, always fought with an Army. Maximus had to fight for his life on a daily basis against lions, arrow wielding marksmen, and outnumbered 10 to 1. Even when stabbed and bleeding to death he was able to crush Commodus. Wallace would have no chance against Maximus!

Side: Maximus
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
1 point

Er, I beg to differ. Watch the first clip of my arguement on the other side. Both are very cool, Wallace and Maximus. There's just something more... barbarian about Wallace that just appeals to my male instincts on some deep level.

Side: Braveheart
4 points

I would think that Maximus would take down William just because he had better training even tho they both where famous generals of war ,but he doesn't seem to be fighting as much in the movie as William did. I think that roam would have been much worse for a slave knowing that you are not important and you could die any day; he was so well trained that he could withstand all brutal battles he faced.

PS: nice topic sis

Side: Gladiator
3 points

Maximus lead one of the largest Army's in the history of mankind. William Wallace lead a bunch of hooligan's who were not professionally trained warriors. There is no comparison, Maximus' troops were better prepared, more strategic, and superior to the Scots.

"On my word, unleash hell"

Side: Maximus
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
1 point

I dislike your premise. You're saying because Maximus lead a larger army he's better?

The movie didn't get good until he lead no army, he was a slave.

That aside, I'm curious what makes you feel that a movie kicks more ass based on the power of the army featured? Or is this debate about who's army would win? I think not.

It's about the movie. And manly kick ass movies. And which manly kick ass movie kicks more ass. Am I wrong?

If it's about the army then Starship Troopers beats out both. (Though that is the most very most underrated and under appreciated movie ever) No one would argue it's better than either Gladiator or Braveheart would they?

Don't get me wrong, both are awsome. But I think taken strictly as individuals, without armies to back them up, Wallace is a bit more awsome than Maximus.

Side: Braveheart
1 point

Gladiator all the way!!

russel crow is fuckin hot!!!

battles are clever an awesome!!

it just us, nothing else need be said.

except that russel crow is hot!!

Side: Gladiator
1 point

glasdiators were trainder even harder than roman soldeirs, and a rebel glatiator would have acess to stolen roman army weapons, i have to side with the gladiator

Side: Gladiator