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Bruce Springsteen boycotts N.C. but refuses to boycott 9 no restriction abortion states!
There is not a more perfect example of the Left's fanatical misplaced priorities.
Ask yourself how it is possible to worry more if a biological man can go into a woman's locker room, than if unborn babies can be killed right up to birth.
To most rational people the latter is a million times more important, but not to the Democrat party, not to Left leaning corporations and people like Bruce Springsteen. The priorities of the Left shows their indifference to truly important issues such as life and death of the innocent. They live and breathe their ideology and what is more important to getting them elected and controlling our courts. All other matters are a distant second, or non existent because the abortion trade is one of their big money lobbyist groups.
Here is a link to a site giving you the facts that those on the Left simply ignore....
It's the conservatives who are more concerned with bathrooms than with reality you jackass.
Conservatives are often concerned with bathrooms, but not locker rooms! You once made a post recently where conservatives are somehow concerned with locker rooms!
The conservatives are the ones making the laws. You are the most ignorant person on the website. Just because you pretend to have answers doesn't mean you are knowledgeable. You have to actually have the real answers to not be ignorant.
The conservatives are the ones making the laws. You are the most ignorant person on the website. Just because you pretend to have answers doesn't mean you are knowledgeable. You have to actually have the real answers to not be ignorant.
Neither the conservatives nor the liberals are making laws to do with locker rooms. Laws regarding locker rooms were in place long before the conservatives or liberals came to existence.
You're an idiot. And you just like feeding FromWithin's little nonsense to make yourself look clever. Next time he goes on about locker rooms, ignore him, little prick.
No, you brought it up, you fucking idiot. You seem to think that nobody else remembers any of the comments that you have made on any other thread, moron.
You seem to think that conservatives care about locker rooms, a good look at your comment history within the last few days will prove this.
You really need to understand the bathroom/locker thing (i.e. cuoroc and FromWithin made up the locker issue, not the conservatives).
No, you brought it up, you fucking idiot. You seem to think that nobody else remembers any of the comments that you have made on any other thread, moron.
You have already admitted to not being able to remember things on multiple occasions. There is no reason to think you have remembered anything correctly.
You seem to think that conservatives care about locker rooms, a good look at your comment history within the last few days will prove this.
That's because FromWithin brought up locker rooms you stupid fuck.
You really need to understand the bathroom/locker thing (i.e. cuoroc and FromWithin made up the locker issue, not the conservatives).
First, you aren't even smart enough to know what is going on between Cuoroc and FromWithin, so there is absolutely no reason to trust your judgement on anything else. Second, if FromWithin made up the locker issue that proves I didn't bring it up you stupid contradictory douche.
You have already admitted to not being able to remember things on multiple occasions. There is no reason to think you have remembered anything correctly.
No, I remembered the important details, just not the unimportant bits.
That's because FromWithin brought up locker rooms you stupid fuck
Just because one conservative nut like FromWithin brings something up doesn't mean all conservative nuts do.
Just because the West Borough Baptist church preaches that gays should be burned doesn't imply that all conservatives happen to believe in killing gay people.
I personally believe the whole "gay/anti-gay" argument is just a massive distraction and people on both sides just need to grow up and forget about all the nonsense. If one side was to ignore the other, then the other side would probably just stop talking, since the other side isn't listening.
At least it would be a bit of a change.
First, you aren't even smart enough to know what is going on between Cuoroc and FromWithin, so there is absolutely no reason to trust your judgement on anything else. Second, if FromWithin made up the locker issue that proves I didn't bring it up you stupid contradictory douche.
Actually by applying it to situations when you didn't need to, you are bringing the locker-room issue up.
This locker room problem doesn't have anything to do with being a conservative so by implying it does, you were actually bringing it up again.
And Cuoroc is either FromWithin, or his clone, so yes I do know about him.
And Cuoroc is either FromWithin, or his clone, so yes I do know about him.
I am sorry. I saw another bit of mental retardation. Cuoroc is not FromWithin or his clone. FromWithin is a crybaby who comes here to complain and bans people. Cuoroc is someone who has been banned from those debates for disagreeing with him, so he copies the debates and doesn't ban anyone. That way the giant list of people that FromWithin bans get to discuss how wrong FromWithin is. You are again demonstrating you don't know shit.
I am sorry. I saw another bit of mental retardation. Cuoroc is not FromWithin or his clone. FromWithin is a crybaby who comes here to complain and bans people. Cuoroc is someone who has been banned from those debates for disagreeing with him, so he copies the debates and doesn't ban anyone. That way the giant list of people that FromWithin bans get to discuss how wrong FromWithin is. You are again demonstrating you don't know shit.
Then how come Cuoroc gets attacked by others as if those beliefs are his own then?
Are you trying to imply that others that attack him fail to see that Cuoroc is not on the same side as FromWithin?
You have no reading comprehension. You have no idea why people attack Cuoroc.
Only a fucking idiot would think that 2 people were the same because other people treated them the same. How fucking dumb do you have to be to not think about whether they were making the same arguments?
Only a fucking idiot would think that 2 people were the same because other people treated them the same. How fucking dumb do you have to be to not think about whether they were making the same arguments?
On this site, if two people make the same arguments then only then are they are accused of being stupid.
Try to understand how cult mentality works, worthless ball of snot.
First of all, that isn't true. Second, that doesn't have anything to do with what I said.
You're an idiot but you've encouraged by your dumb friends on this site that you are extremely intelligent.
On this site, if you use a particular type of argument, then you are accused of being stupid. If you believe a certain thing is true, it automatically makes you stupid according to the morons on this site.
The morons aren't interested in whether or not you think outside the box.
You have to believe in a particular set of beliefs to be classed as smart on this site by all the morons here, too. Saying it in a stupid garbled way while playing mumbo jumbo word games makes people think you are genius, you never fail to do this, so I guess all the idiots on this site tend to think of you as some genius.
On this site, if you use a particular type of argument, then you are accused of being stupid.
Yes, the stupid arguments get you called stupid.
If you believe a certain thing is true, it automatically makes you stupid according to the morons on this site.
If you believe things are true that are definitely false you are a moron.
The morons aren't interested in whether or not you think outside the box.
Believing in complete falsehoods is not thinking outside of the box, that's just plain not thinking.
You have to believe in a particular set of beliefs to be classed as smart on this site by all the morons here, too.
You just have to have consistent beliefs.
Saying it in a stupid garbled way while playing mumbo jumbo word games makes people think you are genius, you never fail to do this, so I guess all the idiots on this site tend to think of you as some genius.
Just because you are too fucking dumb to read doesn't mean I wrote it in a garbled way.
You call me stupid because I hold a particular set of beliefs, you don't give a fuck about the arguments I use to support those believes. You're weak.
If you believe things are true that are definitely false you are a moron.
How would you know whether things are true or false? You don't even know what consensus is all about. Nothing here has been proven to be true or false completely, brainless.
You're just a little man claiming that his believes are somehow always "right".
Believing in complete falsehoods is not thinking outside of the box, that's just plain not thinking.
LMAO who gave you the right to determine complete falsehoods? If one adds things up properly, then yes, they are thinking outside the box, doesn't mean that what you say is true.
Anything that is in itself false is a complete falsehood. Idiot.
It's as stupid as the term "pure energy".
Anything that is energy is pure energy unless chemical compounds are mixed in within the energy.
If something consists of both real and false elements, it still ceases to actually be real, meaning the true elements are therefore not really properties. They're just projections in our minds that happen to an appearance that is the same as the truth.
Everything is all about the mind and it's perspective.
It's all about context, my reluctant student who decides never to learn from what I say.
You just have to have consistent beliefs.
You can make anything out to be consistent, you could even provide evidence for the tooth fairy, but it's pretty pointless.
Just because you are too fucking dumb to read doesn't mean I wrote it in a garbled way.
You call me stupid because I hold a particular set of beliefs, you don't give a fuck about the arguments I use to support those believes. You're weak.
That is obviously not true. You have never posted any of your actual beliefs. All you ever post on here is the opposite of whatever you respond to. I have shown that every argument you give to support your arguments is ridiculous.
How would you know whether things are true or false?
This is why you get called stupid. You don't know the difference between true and false.
You're just a little man claiming that his believes are somehow always "right".
No, I am claiming that your beliefs are always wrong because they are.
If one adds things up properly, then yes, they are thinking outside the box, doesn't mean that what you say is true.
You are always adding up things improperly though.
Anything that is energy is pure energy unless chemical compounds are mixed in within the energy.
This is why you get called stupid. You immediately point out why someone would use the term pure energy that you just claimed isn't needed.
If something consists of both real and false elements, it still ceases to actually be real, meaning the true elements are therefore not really properties. They're just projections in our minds that happen to an appearance that is the same as the truth.
The point is that you don't even try to mix in true statements with your false statements.
It's all about context, my reluctant student who decides never to learn from what I say.
You have missed every single obvious context clue that has been presented to you while claiming that you are being taken out of context. You are the one who is failing to learn.
You can make anything out to be consistent, you could even provide evidence for the tooth fairy, but it's pretty pointless.
It is less pointless to try to prove the tooth fairy than what you do: proving the tooth fairy both exists and doesn't exist.
You are such a fucking idiot that I can't even read your post. I stopped after you wrote:
Just because one conservative nut like FromWithin brings something up doesn't mean all conservative nuts do.
I only ever brought up locker rooms in the nutjob fucking debates that FromWithin created. It is fucking stupid to accuse me of bringing up locker rooms, being proven wrong, then pretending like I think FromWithin represents all conservatives. Fuck off.
You are such a fucking idiot that I can't even read your post. I stopped after you wrote:
lol
I only ever brought up locker rooms in the nutjob fucking debates that FromWithin created. It is fucking stupid to accuse me of bringing up locker rooms, being proven wrong, then pretending like I think FromWithin represents all conservatives. Fuck off.
You outwardly stated that conservatives have a problem with locker rooms. You just love losing.
You already said that it was FromWithin not representing conservatives bringing it up. You already explained that I wasn't attacking conservatives, I was attacking FromWithin.
You already said that it was FromWithin not representing conservatives bringing it up.
So what? I attributed it to FromWithin, but you explicitly attributed it to conservatives.
You already explained that I wasn't attacking conservatives, I was attacking FromWithin.
No, you were attacking conservatives because you explicitly stated that locker rooms was something that conservatives ruminate about, you didn't mention it as if it was just something FromWithin says.
How come all of the sudden you are trying to make it out like you believe only FromWithin said it, instead of stating that all conservatives do it? Is it because I've backed you into a corner and you know fully well how stupid your original statement was, so you deny saying it?
Well, I made it to dumbWithin's auto ban, so I guess I'll be posting here now. Thanks Cuaroc!
Anyway...
The priorities of the Left shows their indifference to truly important issues such as life and death of the innocent.
Says a member of the party that ignores all environmental issues and common sense gun law reform, and has leaders who like to joke about carpet-bombing the middle-east.
That's because Bruce Springsteen has more in common with a majority of citizens of the USA instead of with your fringe special interest group.
And if you ever did buy his records please stop. I for one can't stand the thought you're listening to the same music that I or normal people listen to.
Very important points you should read about the gender bathroom issue
The point is peeping and other crimes in bathrooms and dressing rooms do occur.
And even if in some far fetched world it didn't, which it actually does!
Once the law is a Real Law, it will be almost impossible to prosecute perverts who peep or worse, in ladies rooms and dressing rooms too!
So, this law will open up crimes against women and little girls and give predators legal arguments that will almost always escape prosecution!
And stores, concerned citizens that are aware of deviant predators, law enforcement, and the courts will have their hands tied by this law and will not be able to keep women and little girls safe in these areas.
Because
1 - they will have an a legal argument of defense thanks to a law
And
2 - a law would justify law suits from pr editors, who should be prosecuted and justify suit against accusations on the grounds they are " transgender"
3 - the political correct environment would excuse these preditors day in and day out, as people walk away from something that felt wrong, but question the confusing circumstances they just witnessed.
Or they will in general fear accusing a predator because of not wanting to offend a transgender.
My suggestion is no law allowing it!
And let the issue go.
If you are truly transgender, you most likely really look feminine, and just do it. Go into your stall, do your thing, wash your hands and finish your shopping.
But if its a law, you will effectively have given predators a free pass, and that's unconscionable!
You hear many incidents of peepers in bathrooms and dressing rooms, AND DRESSING ROOMS will come if not passed in one swoop along with bathrooms!!
Dressing rooms are really the end game of the law. Bathrooms are just the foot in the door!
The law allows people who identify as a certain gender the right to use the bathroom they identify with. That does NOT circumvent invasion of privacy or Peeping Tom laws (which vary state to state) nor does it mean that sexual predators will suddenly that the right to continue being sexual predators. Do you think a symbol on the bathroom door stopped a person with the person with bad intentions before?
In saying this, I'm both for and against it myself. My MAIN concern is for the trans-gendered person. We aren't a society (as made obvious by some comments on here) that is accepting in the difference of others. We haven't reached that level of enlightenment yet. There are already cases of idiots being violent against breast cancer survivors who had mastectomies. If you are THAT concerned about someone peeking on your child...go with your child. Otherwise 99% of the people going to the bathroom just have to pee.
Personally, although it would involve more "real estate" in the stores, I would love to see just family bathrooms. Single rooms that go from floor to ceiling with a door, a changing table, toilet and sink. That way women can go in with their children or help their elderly fathers, and men can go with their children or elderly mothers.
That's opinion. There are many reasons this should not be legalized. If you a Trans and you look like a female we most likely wouldn't even notice.
But here are the reasons not to have a "law" like that
1 perverts
2 people who have been raped and abused and protecting them also from real triggers
3 it can be easily manipulated for both political and personal gain at the expense of innocent well meaning people
4 Discrimination is the big word, so a nice 70 year old woman is in the bathroom and she says something or raises a concern with a Trans that doesn't really look like their Trans, bingo discrimination law suits, and legalized crime. As people are, that could redistribute wealth to people real quick. Meal ticket to a legalized scam.
That perverts weren't held off by a symbol on a door before?
Or that people have already been attacked due to idiots who think they have the right to harass someone? That's fact.
My desire that there be family bathrooms, yes that's opinion. :D
If someone is busy trying to check out a person to see if they are trans-gendered, someone who btw is simply trying to use the toilet, who is really displaying creepy tendencies?
Our desire has nothing to do with it, laws take away freedom. Laws restrict. If they are reasonable restrictions good. If they are harmful then bad. How much control do you want an inefficient, wasteful, self serving, currupt government to have?
Laws are to assure fairness, where unfairness can be crimes.
So if discrimination Laws open the door to damage people for simple use of pronouns, how safe is the law?
So you want the government to not have control of who can use which bathroom by having the government limit who can use which bathroom?
Fairness needs to extend to those who are trans-gendered, not just limited to the people who believe certain ways. Do you think a handicapped parking space is unfair? Handicap people need it but loads of people abuse it to no end. So does that mean that we should do away with those?
What about laws that allow mixed race bathrooms? At some point you can bet people were saying they didn't want their child mixing with a different color in the bathroom but now it's a good thing even though racism is still rampant.
Why would I want the government up our assessment in bathrooms?
Actually I am very upset about their overreach into everything in our lives. And I honestly think people have no idea what they are letting happen. There is not one thought beyond one thought on any issue. No sense!
No laws about bathrooms! None! The only reason NC and other states started writing laws about licenses and birth certificates, is because lgbt isn't happy unless they force their way into every part of our lives. Bathrooms were not an issue till lgbt made it one! I don't know about you, but I wasn't checking people who look like women to see if there was a penis.
Why all this stupidity? Because a few people had an issue here and ther? This is nuts.
I can't believe how blind and idiot people are.
No matter what sense things make, we have to have nonsense because everyone hates common sense.
It boils down to this, our whole problem is these ridiculous soap box platforms that are nothing but self godification.
You know what America was built on and made us great? We were respectful in general for the general best of all.
That is not the case, now it's all me me me, and us us us, and our our our, at the cost of all all all!
Two things you need to know, if you don't already.......
"Gender" is not the same as "sex." The two terms are not biologically synonymous.
And the vast majority of us Biologists, as well as Anthropologists, nowadays regard the term "race" as little more than an easy, convenient, yet flawed system of reference.
All of us homo sapiens are of the same race. The same species. We all evolved from the same LUCA. The differences between, say, a blonde/blue Norwegian and a native-born Rawandan only cosmetic. DNA is 99.99% the same.
Those cosmetic differences occurred only because of selective inheritance of genes (again, mostly cosmetic, as in skin, hair and eyes) that proved advantageous for living in their native climates and environments.
A few dynamics you guys need to think about before you jump in and be fair at the cost of great unfairness.
A guy could rape in a bathroom with or without this law.
The difference with the law not only is being uncomfortable, and there are varying degrees of that.
A 10 year old girl going to a public rest room with a an older transgender would be very scarey for her too.
You cant make a law with a small picture. You have to be responsible and look at the different scenarios and apply it.
An even bigger issue is this, a guy could rape or peep in a bathroom anyway, with or without law.
But with the law passed, you WILL tie up just prosecutions of offenders!
You have a perv peeking or worse, with this law, these crimes will occur with nasty peepers in frequency beyond current incidents.
But because of this law, you wont be able to touch perverts legally using these areas.
Its a matter of chaos, and its to confusing to prosecute them.
And they will prey on it! And hide through this law, legally.
Its a perfect legal argument, to go out and do it again and again. Without even a smack. As a matter of fact, the pervert will actually sew stores and concerned citizens AND WIN!
Without a bathroom law, if a customer or employee sees a 40 year old guy in the girls room, and it looks suspect, they can act on it! And can call someone, and have it investigated.
With this law, deviant behavior will get a free pass, and the law will protect preditors.
By easily claiming they are trangender.
And approaching them will guarenteed to get the concerned person who is accusing appropriately in trouble, and sued. Because he can sue, he will sue! And be able to continue being free preditors!
So the look at at impact of a law like this, and weigh it with common sense, and also knowledge of the legal process!
You may not want to hear this, but dont reject true evaluation of legal process, to defend your views.
If you can say the trade off of letting preditors be preditors and continue to get away with it, and perping toms or worse will be excused in droves in the legal process over this law, then fine. Have a good day. We agree to disagree.
And like I said, just do it.
We wont likely question your gender, if you are really transgender.
But a law will aid preditors!
And you being sure has control of the legal process and loopholes, assuring these preditors will have to prove something? Prove something that is gray, against someone saing they are protected as a transgender? Proof of the incident would be very gray and extremely difficult to prove or disprove, no matter how clear the incident is?
Law is a funny thing!
The burden if proof is on the accuser.
Word against word, ask a lawyer what would likely happen!
He may not have to show much at all, if anything. Afterall, "trangenders" will be protected. You would have to have proof of what you saw.
Or its word against word!
A few dynamics you guys need to think about before you jump in and be fair at the cost of great unfairness.
A guy could rape in a bathroom with or without this law.
The difference with the law not only is being uncomfortable, and there are varying degrees of that.
A 10 year old girl going to a public rest room with a an older transgender would be very scarey for her too.
You cant make a law with a small picture. You have to be responsible and look at the different scenarios and apply it.
An even bigger issue is this, a guy could rape or peep in a bathroom anyway, with or without law.
But with the law passed, you WILL tie up just prosecutions of offenders!
You have a perv peeking or worse, with this law, these crimes will occur with nasty peepers in frequency beyond current incidents.
But because of this law, you wont be able to touch perverts legally using these areas.
Its a matter of chaos, and its to confusing to prosecute them.
And they will prey on it! And hide through this law, legally.
Its a perfect legal argument, to go out and do it again and again. Without even a smack. As a matter of fact, the pervert will actually sew stores and concerned citizens AND WIN!
Without a bathroom law, if a customer or employee sees a 40 year old guy in the girls room, and it looks suspect, they can act on it! And can call someone, and have it investigated.
With this law, deviant behavior will get a free pass, and the law will protect preditors.
By easily claiming they are trangender.
And approaching them will guarenteed to get the concerned person who is accusing appropriately in trouble, and sued. Because he can sue, he will sue! And be able to continue being free preditors!
So the look at at impact of a law like this, and weigh it with common sense, and also knowledge of the legal process!
