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Debate Score:31
Arguments:21
Total Votes:34
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Can a natural disaster be distinguished from a Act of God?

Are natural disasters' Act of God or are they just Act of Nature?

Can humans see the difference between a natural disaster or Act of God?

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3 points

This question appears to assume the truth of its assertion. Remember the burden of proof that is so often overlooked? It would be of benefit to know how you define your version of god.

I will say this, however, in any attempt to reconcile natural phenomena through "supernatural" means, it is the one who asserts the supernatural that is left to the peril of his own delusion.

Side: yes

The question is akin to asking if it's possible to tell the difference between God bowling and thunder.

Side: yes

Yes, but only the atheists and agnostics. Religious people are too, er, religious.

Side: yes

What kind of 'natural disaster' would be needed to convince it was a Act of God for atheists and agnostics?

Side: yes

It would depend on how irreligious they are.

If the world opened up and swallowed all homosexuals - and only homosexuals - would you believe?

Side: yes
Bradf0rd(1431) Disputed
1 point

You're saying that if someone doesn't accept the belief in God that they can tell the difference between an event caused by god, and one not caused by god...

If you don't believe in god there should be no difference because you don't accept the second, supposed, cause of the disaster. The question would immediately become invalid.

The only people that should be able to tell the difference are religious people or people of faith. The two supposed causes can be valid, one caused by nature, and one caused by god.

Side: No
TERMINATOR(6781) Disputed
2 points

That is not what I mean at all.

A religious person will think that all natural disasters are an Act of God, thus they cannot distinguish what truly is (or may be?) an Act of God and a plain old natural disaster.

An atheist, who does not believe in God and thus not in an Act of God, will claim that all things are naturalistic in origin.

Side: yes
1 point

Yes, but it isn't always. Some people believe strongly in their faith and see lots of things as acts of gods. I do however think that most rationally thinking people can tell the difference. Hell, any rationally thinking person wouldn't believe in a god that comes in and screws with everything we do anyways.

Side: yes
1 point

Yes. The Bible (and here I am assuming the Christian God) tells us that God does not do anything without warning his servants first. If the event was not forewarned by a prophet, then you can be sure it wasn't caused by God.

Supporting Evidence: Amos 3:7 (www.biblegateway.com)
Side: yes
3 points

Can people distinguish between an unnatural event and a natural event? No. An event in nature cannot be unnatural.

Can people distinguish between a natural event and a natural event? No, there is no difference.

Funny, this topic assumes a God that can act in the realm of the 'natural', and then assumes God isn't natural.

Side: No
2 points

If God exists, then all disasters are Acts of God. If God does not exist, then all disasters are natural.

Side: No
1 point

even if angels with laser vision came from heaven killing us all scientists would somehow twist it into a natural disaster to prove God doesn't exist.

Side: No
ryuukyuzo(641) Disputed
3 points

Science isn't about destroying Christianity you know. It's about solving the mysteries of the universe, so If God sent a bunch of angels down with laser vision and started killing us, the evidence would back it up because it would be true.

The fact that religion fails on so many levels of science isn't because of some anti-theology agenda, it's because the bible is contradictory to not only all recent discoveries about the natural universe, but is also contradictory to itself.

If science actually backed up the claims made in the bible then why the hell would scientists willingly sentence themselves to an eternity of hell fire just to spread some "lies" about how the natural universe functions? Hmm?

Side: yes
1 point

any natural disaster will have its own scientific reason......and also the man made disasters

will affect nature.....the god have no role in it.

Side: yes
1 point

Unless there is some quantifiable means to show or prove that a disaster has a "supernatural cause", then we must presume a natural cause, and as per my understanding this is quite impossible considering none of our scientific instruments can measure the supernatural, there would be no way to tell.

Side: No
1 point

even if an Act if God does happen the media just cover it up

look at what happened here: http://www.ccgm.org.au/articles/Articles/ARTICLE-0102.htm

Side: No