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Debate Score:131
Arguments:85
Total Votes:142
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Can animals consent

Only examples and links. No opinions.

 This debate is about all consentings, not just sex.

True

Side Score: 60
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Side Score: 71
4 points

Implicitly, Sometimes. Explicitly, Never. Now, Can We Please Stop With All Of The Dog Fucker Debates?

Side: True
3 points

I got a link. But there is another thing you forgot informed consent. I don't think it is necessary. I don't inform my guy on informed consent. And I think alot of other people wouldn't care about informed consent either. My guy knows that he is taking a risk but he does not care.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t;=35274

Side: True
2 points

Sex with animals should be banned because they cannot give consent. Heard that before A quick glance at the meat industry.

http://animalblawg.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/why-is-it-a-crime-to-have-sex-with-an-animal/

Side: True
pakicetus(1455) Disputed
2 points
goodmale(1457) Disputed
2 points

Give me some time it not easy. Things don't always pop up what your trying to ask. It just talks about there different health and food.

Side: True
Pythonista(10) Disputed
1 point

Human society is deeply anthropocentric because it is... well, human. It makes no sense to label actions that cause no human harm whatsoever as crimes, though I suppose it could be considered animal cruelty, if we were to look at the moral side of bestiality and the fact that animals probably don't enjoy it either.

As for the question of whether or not animals can consent, this essay by philosopher Donald Davidson tackles the issue of rationality: http://christianebailey.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Davidson-Rational-Animals-1982.pdf . It concludes that "(...) rationality is a social trait. Only communicators have it."

But whatever the case might be, to clog up the already clogged judicial system with bestiality cases seems ill-advised.

Side: false
goodmale(1457) Disputed
1 point

If I cut my brain apart to get at equal level so there would be no taking advantage of. Then would you allow it or would you still come up with another lame excuse.

Side: True
pakicetus(1455) Disputed
4 points

A 13 year old can consent too.

Side: false
goodmale(1457) Disputed
2 points

But there not a adult !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: True

Show me proof that they can consent to sex in a way that leaves no doubt. Otherwise, it's no longer interspecies loving, it's rape.

Side: false
2 points

This is what he cannot do, show you proof. What he can, and will do if you keep trying, is tell you he's right, no longer even trying to give proof. Tell you about his alleged accolades and scientific achievements. Then when that has run it's course, attempt to silence you by banning.

To be perfectly honest I'm almost certain goodmlae is a troll, who's looking for attention. Hence the reason he chose an topic most would disagree with, as his favorite topic, and has at least two alt accounts. One to agree with the unpopular opinion, one to disagree so boldly as to make various debates about it.

Side: false
goodmale(1457) Disputed
1 point

Stop trolling. You need to stop with your drama. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: True
goodmale(1457) Disputed
1 point

Dude if I did that it would have to show sex in it. And plus look at the video to the right.

Side: True
3 points

Dude if I did that it would have to show sex in it.

If you are trying to say that the only way to show consent it to first have sex with the creature then you can't really count that as unquestionable consent. If you have to first have sex with a person to know if they are okay with it, you don't know what their thoughts are. If you're having sex with a person or animal and you have no way of knowing if they approve of it yet then that could definitely be considered rape.

And plus look at the video to the right.

...do you mean the left?

Side: false
tugger5678 Banned
4 points

You need to seek help. Hopefully at some point your parents will see the disgusting stuff you are posting and get you help you sick freak

Side: false
goodmale(1457) Disputed
2 points

Sorry but this debate is not on opinions !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: True
tugger5678 Disputed Banned
4 points

You're gross and that's not just my opinion dipshit----------------------------------------

Side: false