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Debate Score:28
Arguments:27
Total Votes:29
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Can anyone, or anything, be omnipotent?

Can someone be omnipotent? Is it possible for a person to be capable of doing everything?

Yes...

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One of the most popular misconceptions concerning what it means to be omnipotent is the idea that in order to truly be omnipotent, one must be able to do anything that can be supposed, including the logically impossible. This way of looking at omnipotence is so obviously absurd that It must be concluded that omnipotence can only be rationally described in terms of having the ability to do anything that is possible. Life is omnipotent unless you use the word omnipotent in a patently absurd manner.

Side: Yes...
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This way of looking at omnipotence is so obviously absurd that It must be concluded that omnipotence can only be rationally described in terms of having the ability to do anything that is possible.

Yeah, this makes sense.

Life is omnipotent unless you use the word omnipotent in a patently absurd manner.

I think I get what you are saying here. I personally think "life" would be replaced with "nature".

Side: Yes...
1 point

Ok...Nature. How did you end up banned from this debate?

Side: Yes...
2 points

The paradoxes claimed by atheists concerning omnipotence involve setting one feature of God against another feature of God. This cannot happen, as all Gods are believed to be sovereign over the universe or over certain elements of the universe by different faiths.

The omnipotence paradox is logically invalid.

Side: Yes...
Cartman(18192) Disputed Banned
2 points

If the features of God don't work together it is ok to point that out. If you give something enough features it can't exist. For instance, if you say something is visible to all and can't be seen, you have created an impossible thing.

The omnipotence paradox is logically invalid.

This part is true, but doesn't relate to what you are saying. The omnipotence paradox simply says that a being who can do anything possible can't do impossible things, which is not a paradox, but a definition.

Side: No...
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Why wouldn't it be possible?

Side: Yes...
Paradox44(736) Disputed
2 points

Well omnipotence would require for the person to be capable of doing all things. The omnipotence paradox seems to contest this idea. Are you familiar with it?

Side: Yes...
Leo_Boccacio(8) Disputed
1 point

Your proof is proof by lack of evidence. Your icon doesn't help you be considered serious either.

Side: No...
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
1 point

I'n familiar with the supposed omnipotence paradox, but I'm really confused as to why it is even being brought up. Its been show as not being a paradox multiple times for many years.

Side: No...
2 points

I don't believe it's possible for anything to be able to do anything. The laws of physics really can't be broken, or at least I haven't seen them be. I guess as a human, with a 3 dimensional mind, I can't fathom a creature that can act outside of those dimensions.

An example I can recall a while back was for God (he who owns a monopoly on omnipotence) can not create a triangle with four sides.

Or perhaps a better one, that I believe was referenced in the bible was the paradox of God creating a rock so heavy he could not lift it. On one end of the spectrum he just limited himself, to not being able to do something (lifting the rock) or he was already limited in the sense that he couldn't make said rock in the first place.

In conclusion, I don't believe their is because their is no reason to believe there is. It has not existed, and would create a paradox if it were to exist (the omnipotent being).

Side: No...
Paradox44(736) Clarified
2 points

An example I can recall a while back was for God (he who owns a monopoly on omnipotence) can not create a triangle with four sides.

According to Merriam Webster everything is first described as "all that exists". If a 4 sided triangle doesn't exist then it cannot qualify as a thing. If omnipotence means capable of everything then the 4 sided triangle approach is useless. Does that make sense to you?

Side: Yes...
DrawFour(2662) Clarified
1 point

Well I mentioned it mostly for those who have not heard it to let them make sense of it. I don't prefer that one.

Side: Yes...
1 point

Anything is possible, but at a certain point the improbability of that possibility being actualized makes it safe to assume it is not true. There is no rationale or evidence to my knowledge that indicates this omnipotence is reasonably probable to support a belief in its objective existence.

Side: No...

No. Even God is not omnipotent cuz da Bible says He cant lie.

Side: No...
goodmale(1459) Disputed
2 points

God can lie because God wrote it and he is lying.......?....

Side: Yes...