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 Can bronto tell me the difference between a liberal and a socialist and marxist? (16)

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Can bronto tell me the difference between a liberal and a socialist and marxist?

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The liberal is the unsuspecting, useful idiot to the Marxist, as Saul Alinsky himself put it.

The Socialist is a Marxist pseudo pretending to be a liberal.

And the Marxist is a dumpster fire tyrant who is indoctrinated with the religion of Communism. They are no different than the cultists they blather on about. They believe in a utopian future but cannot put together a comprehensive or logical thought proccess as to how you make it work or defend it, even if you could get there without hostile regimes destroying your utopia with nonutopian militaries.

Hootie(505) Disputed
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The liberal is the unsuspecting, useful idiot to the Marxist, as Saul Alinsky himself put it.

Bronto, you have spent the last three days on this site making utterly false claims about the left and attempting to back them up with quotes from senior members of the Nazi Party. Nothing you write has any truth to it. Everything you write is a coordinated attack against the left.

And the Marxist is a dumpster fire tyrant

This is literally the rhetoric of Hitler, Bronto. Please see:-

Hitler Anti-Marxist Rant
Bronto(2009) Disputed
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Bronto, you have spent the last three days on this site making utterly false claims about the left and attempting to back them up with quotes from senior members of the Nazi Party. Nothing you write has any truth to it. Everything you write is a coordinated attack against the left.

So explain to us how quoting is lying. I can't wait to see the response of a jagaloon on this one. Go ahead.

Bronto(2009) Disputed
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1)You claim Hitler lied about what he believed and who he was. Now you use him as a source for who he is. Brilliant.

2)I waited for him to say "the Marxist is a dumpster fire." Imagine my disappointment when I literally didn't see it in the literal captions anywhere...

Bronto(2009) Disputed
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Hey look. Here's what Hitler literally said about literally being a literal Socialist.

https://youtu.be/0U31DyzV3wE

outlaw60(15501) Disputed
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Dummy all that oppose the Left are Nazis ! Who is Karl Marx ???????????

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KarlMarx

NOM you like you some Wikipedia so read and get informed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

loopynutter(67) Disputed
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@Bronto

See my reply to Mingiwuwu. Liberals are left leaning democratic capitalists, socialists want all land and resources to be owned in common and marxists want a system where no hierarchical institutions exist whatsoever.

AlofRI(2857) Clarified
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So why is it that the socialistic systems in Europe do not require land to be owned "in common"? Democratic socialism CANNOT require common ownership. THIS "left-leaning democratic socialist" just wants the "ownership" of our city/state facilities that WE pay for with our taxes, and the Federal "proxy ownership" of our Military, National Parks, ports, etc., by the government OF, BY, and FOR the people.

We don't HAVE to (don't WANT to), go by any communist or Marxist "rules of socialism"! I don't give a rat's ass if we don't even CALL it "socialism", just take what is good FOR THE PEOPLE, what can meld well with democracy, and make it our OWN similarity to socialism. We don't need/want Marx, we don't need/want Lenin, we don't need/want ANY of the authoritarian leaders who used "socialism" or especially communism, to control the people! We DO need to control capitalism to the extent that it doesn't turn U.S. into an oligarchy.

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a liberal and a socialist and marxist?

Can one you Commies explain the above statement ?????????????

DMX2(1) Banned
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They all vote together, so all from the same bee hive as far as I'm concerned. The Marxists are the most extreme, violent & terrorizing, so they might as well all be Marxists since that's the group running "liberal" parties & running the bee hive.

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Actually I am curious what the difference is between a Socialist and Marxist in theory. Not in practise but in theory, I am curious on your take.

loopynutter(67) Clarified
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Communism is something very specific, socialism comes in many forms. You can be a socialist and not a Marxist, but socialism is primarily the transition phases towards communism. There is room however, for different systems to be conceived of which cannot be called communist but can be considered a new form of socialism like the RBE. Marxist theory is socialist and communism is a form of socialism as well, but not all socialists are marxists and communism is only one of many forms of socialism, so the term "marxist" or "communist" and "socialist" are not interchangeable. "Socialism" is basically everything on the 1/4 of the political spectrum that is furthest left. But everything from social democracy to center-right politics can have bits and pieces of socialism to varying degrees. Socialism is simply when the resources and land are owned in common, rather than by the state or by private individuals or institutions. Communism is the most extreme form of that where no systemic political or economic hierarchy exists whatsoever. RBE is communism with the added concept that in the future the way humans think will be entirely different and we will no longer have terms like "belief" or "opinion" and instead of relying on our own subjective conclusions and "making" decisions we will arrive at them through methodology. Thus institutionalized authority will be replaced with reason which can only be achieved if the new way of thinking becomes a part of the global culture, and is taught to everyone in the same way that humans universally have laws and taboos ingrained in their cultures.

So in sum, Marxists are socialists by definition, but socialists are not marxists by definition, because Marxist theory is about the progression of society towards perfect equality and socialism refers to varying systems which are on the more collectivized/equal side of things.