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Debate Score:58
Arguments:54
Total Votes:59
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Can liberals be prolife?

I say yes, because it is the no true Scotsman fallacy to say that no true liberal can be prolife.

Yes.

Side Score: 38
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No.

Side Score: 20
2 points

Anyone can be pro-life. It doesn't matter what label you choose (or have been given). And what does it actually mean to be a liberal anyway? To support welfare? To be anti-war? To be pro-choice? To believe in liberty and equality for all?

Side: Yes.
1 point

Shukriyah. I agree. Prolifers can be liberal, centrist, conservative, minarchist, and so on. I don't know if anarchists can be prolife though. What do you thinl?

Side: Yes.
PhilboydStud(79) Clarified
1 point

Good point. Anarchists don't believe in authority at all, so I can't imagine one being pro-life. If anything, they'd be more likely to support "abortion" of any human, including the ones that were born years ago. :-)

Nihilists too.

Side: Yes.
1 point

Yes, absolutely without a doubt. There is no disputing it as there are 4 men right now in Congress that are Democrats and pro-life.

Congressman Mike McIntyre, NC-07.

Congressman Nick Rahall, WV-03.

Congressman Dan Lipinski, IL-03.

Congressman Collin Peterson, MN-07.

Side: Yes.
Jace(5187) Clarified
1 point

Being a Democrat and being liberal are not necessarily synonymous.

Side: Yes.
Stetson(39) Clarified
1 point

Not at all, but that was how the people in their district wanted to be represented and the reason why they are in office. I mean, conservatism and liberalism are very broad terms. You can be conservative on economics but be liberal on social issues, and I think that might be the opposite for these prolifers. So in a sense, they are probably liberal in the major aspects of the democratic agenda.

Side: Yes.
1 point

Thank you. I agree. .

Side: Yes.
1 point

Since liberalism promotes the understanding of the principles of democracy, civil rights, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, free trade, and private property, I would have thought the Liberals would lean towards pro-choice...?

Side: Yes.
Stetson(39) Clarified
1 point

The majority of liberals are pro-choice, but there are some liberals that are pro-life. I guess being classified as a liberal is having a general liberal view on most topics, but not all.

Side: Yes.
Amarel(5556) Clarified
1 point

Classical liberalism holds that the basic self-evident rights include the right to life along with liberty and pursuit of happiness. This means that a liberal could easily be pro-life for the same reason as other people. It all depends on when a life is a human or when a human has rights.

Side: Yes.

Yes but not a classic liberal. I personally believe we don't need further argument and that this is case closed as soon as everyone realizes that to be a liberal you don't need to be the classic liberal.

Side: Yes.

Plenty of Liberals are Pro-Life and they are honest enough to publicly oppose Capital Punishment.

Side: Yes.

Absolutely! I am a Liberal and I am Pro-Life. I am also against Capital Punishment.

Side: Yes.
Atrag(5556) Banned
2 points

It is against the principles of classic liberalism to demand that a woman continues with her pregnancy.

Side: No.
Atrag(5556) Banned
1 point

She is back. Oh god please no!!!!!!!!!

Side: No.

Liberals believe in letting people do what they want to do and make decisions about their own life. Therefore a liberal would be prochoice.

Side: No.
1 point

I agree. . .

Side: No.
0 points

Liberals vote for Democrats most times so they are NOT PRO LIFE! There is no issue more important than saving innocent life. It is laughable when a person who claims to be pro life votes for Democrats who support even late term abortions on demand.

They are complete phonies.

Now if you find me a Liberal who votes for pro life Republicans and refuses to vote for Democrats, I might listen.

Side: No.
Sitar(3680) Disputed
4 points

Saying that no true liberal would be prolife is the no true Scotsman fallacy. There is an organization called Democrats For Life. The existance of this group proves that liberals can be prolife. I know all of this because I am a liberal prolifer. I have included a link proving my point. http://democratsforlife.org/

Side: Yes.
4 points

"Liberals vote for Democrats most times so they are NOT PRO LIFE!"

That argument does not make sense. One can be liberal and vote for pro-life candidates, even pro-life democrats.

And no, Democrats do not support late term abortions on demand. You should stop lying.

Side: Yes.
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

Well, 2 things wrong. You even admit that not all Democrats feel pro choice and the debate only asks if that is possible, so you agree. You don't talk about the Democrats who are pro life. Is it ok for liberals to vote for them and still claim to be pro life?

Side: Yes.
FromWithin(8240) Disputed
1 point

Now you tell me, if you were truly not a racist, would you belong to a KKK organization? The same goes for a supposedly pro life Democrat. There are certain issues in life that supersede politics. There are issues of humanity and when someone belongs to or supports the Democrat party, it is laughable to claim they are pro life. The Democrat party is radically pro abortion and to deny so is wasting our time.

Side: No.