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Can right wingers provide one example of an establishment democrat socialist?

All establishment democrats are capitalists or at best social democrats like Bernie Sanders.
SOCIALISM a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

weasel

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frog

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Democrats have been closet socialist's for decades. They will never admit it until enough people have been conditioned to support their true colors. This is how they operate.

They have been pushing for bigger, more intrusive Government for decades.... ONE STEP AT A TIME!

They have a love affair with Socialist Europe, and is why Obama was given a Nobel peace prize.

Do you actually think that Democrats would come out of their socialist closet before it is ok to do so? Do you think they would be pushing all the tenets of Socialism? It will take decades to condition a nation to vote for avowed Socialists. Democrats are not so stupid as to admit their ultimate goals. They are devious liars!

Remember when the Democrat Party called it's self pro life? They kept repeating this lie until the day finally came when the majority of people had been conditioned to abortion on demand. This is how they operate.

You know a politician by what he supports, and there is one thing we know about Democrats. They always support bigger more intrusive Government with higher taxes to buy low income votes.

Side: weasel
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Side: weasel
ForestofWank(16) Clarified
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Hello Al, do you advocate that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole?

Side: weasel
AlofRI(2844) Clarified
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Regulated. Deregulation opens the gates to capitalism's "Whatever the market will bear" theory, which, in fact, kills a lot of people and drives even more into poverty.

Many saw, this week, diabetics going to Mexico to buy a years supply of insulin for just over $100, which would have cost them $1500 in NY. THAT happens to many life-saving drugs! Are capitalists going to change that? NO! Regulation, without stifling growth is VERY possible within those extremes. Regulation that saves lives in industry (OSHA and CE) is worthwhile even if it does cut into profits! Regulations that keep the air and water clean are worthwhile, even if it does cut into profits!

Capitalism is good, but, without restraint is good for only a few, and that number gets fewer as deregulation helps capitalism BEYOND where it NEEDS help. We need SOME "socialistic buffers" to balance capitalism for the benefit of the majority of people.

Side: weasel
2 points

Bernie Sanders is a self-admitted socialist. I'm sure there are many others.

Side: frog
ForestofWank(16) Disputed
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Bernie Sanders is a self-admitted socialist. I'm sure there are many others

Bernie Sanders is a social democrat technically, his platform does not fit the provided definition of socialism. He advocates a controlled market and a welfare state which is not democratic socialism. America is an inherently capitalist country and therefore it's establishment is capitalist, the closest thing to socialism we have ever seen is Bernie Sanders hybridized system which is partially socialist but still largely capitalist.

Side: weasel
ExKhan(24) Disputed
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Bernie Sanders is a social democrat technically, his platform does not fit the provided definition of socialism

Yeah it does. He advocates for open borders, and attended a USSR, Communist kibbutz in the 1960s.

Side: frog
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Do not get FROGGEY there NOM but i must say Old Barney and Bug Eyes from New York are a list of 2 ! You want to deny it Pond Dweller ????????????

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