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Debate Score:32
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Can you show that the Floyd murder was racially motivated?

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Side Score: 15
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Side Score: 17
3 points

Can you show that the Floyd murder was racially motivated?

Hello A:

Sure.. I know what the word "endemic" means, and you don't. Poor fella.

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2016/08/doj-report-racist-police-practices-are-endemic-in-baltimore/495245/

excon

Side: Yes
Amarel(5137) Clarified
1 point

Those two cities are 1100 miles apart. But if Democrats tend to have racist city policies, then their may be a commonality of racism between Baltimore and Minneapolis.

Even so, unless you demonstrate that a study of Baltimore provides the cause of an individual's action in Minneapolis, your just blowing smoke. You might as well say that a black guy mugged you once to justify your white hood and cloak.

Side: Yes
excon(14554) Disputed
1 point

Those two cities are 1100 miles apart.

Hello again A:

What??? From coast to coast, they ALL wear blue.. Dude!

excon

Side: No
1 point

It was pretty obvious what with the record of this particular "peace officer". What is NOT obvious is why he had his hands in his pockets. Was he getting turned on?? Was he enjoying the whole thing?? Either way, it was MURDER!

I was very happy to see that there appeared to be as many white faces in the crowd as black and brown.

First degree is intentional, this was as intentional as it gets! Hard to "prove", yes. But if it was a black or Hispanic cop that did the same to a white person it would be MUCH easier to "prove". THAT'S what people are pissed off about, and those people are of all colors .... finally! :-(

Side: Yes
1 point

The video is clear. The man is begging for his life gasping for air with labored respirations and a raspy voice. His hands are behind his back already in handcuffs and he is face down being held down by 3 strong men, one of whom has likely the majority of his body weight on his neck. Multiple bystanders ask the officer to stop. When Floyd stops breathing, they plead with the officers to check his pulse and let him breath. This goes on for minutes until they lift his limp lifeless body onto the stretcher.

Now maybe a layperson might be naive enough to put their weight on someone's neck in an effort to subdue them. But police officers are supposed to be trained in basic first aid and CPR as well. That whole team should have identified that the "threat" was under control and that he needed medical attention. And keep in mind this is a course you need to renew every 2 years. He kept his knee on this man's neck after he stopped breathing and they didn't do anything to help him. This leaves one of two options: either the officers were all undertrained and not really equipped to work in the field, or there was some personal desire behind his actions. Those officers did not look at those black people as equals. Had this been a white person, the chain of events never would have led to the same outcome and we all know that.

Side: Yes
Amarel(5137) Clarified
1 point

Everything you present demonstrates the probable cause for a murder charge but fails to logically connect to your last two sentences.

Side: Yes
3 points

Whether this murder was racially motivated or not is immaterial.

This event cannot be considered in isolation as it is just one of a number of incidents all of which are perceived by the black community as racially inspired acts of anti-black heavy handed/deadly policing.

The goal must be to consign the blame game to the dust bin and commence on the road to transparent impartial community policing which is acceptable by all sections of society.

Trying to score brownie points on a debating forum solves nothing.

Side: No
Amarel(5137) Clarified
2 points

It's not immaterial to the charges in question.

I agree that the bigger issue is the perception of racism. That's what's led to the national catastrophe. But if there are a series of racially charged occurrences, like this one, with a lack of evidence of racism, like this one, then you will have a mass perception that is incorrect.

Nationwide studies that account for crime rates and types do not support the racist cop narrative. Yet that narrative is perpetuated by people with strong a belief in perceived racism.

Side: Yes
1 point

It was not racially motivated at all why? because its election time and everyone knows that this is more of a political motivated murder. its funny how democrats do this racist issue when its election time then media heats it up to make it look as if only black people where victims of police brutality. let the records speaks for itself there are 42 whites vs 31 of blacks that are killed in 2020 and in the previous years the black still didn't out numbered the whites in this case. and please don't argue about how black peoples population which is only 12.3 percent of the America and still they still suffer almost the same as white people. 40 percent of prisoners are black specifically 592,900 and 499,800 of whites. why are there black prisoners than white because the democrats plans it that why they keep this racism issue alive only when its election time i mean where are these people when 235 black people died last year? again this is politically motivated rather than racially motivated

Side: No