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Capitalism depends on socialism to work and vice versa

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Capitalism depends on taking services away from people. Socialism gets in the way, that's why capitalists invade socialist countries so capitalists can seize more markets. Certainly socialism does not depend on capitalism, and the more capitalism there is, the less socialism there will be. Think about the US. In the 60's, America had a lot of social services, but in the 80's, the US became a much more capitalist countries, and subsequently, took away a lot of social services. Back in the 70's, it wouldn't be uncommon for there to be free colleges. Nowadays, you can't find any. You saw something very similar in China. When Deng seized power in 1978, he took away a lot of social services that were there during the socialist era. He took away money that was going to handicapped people. During the socialist era, you would get treated first in hospitals, and then pay. After 1978, you had to pay first before you got treated. Other things Deng did in 1978 was give away state owned factories, and industries to private people. In 1989, Deng started charging tuition for college students, and that is what sparked the riots. So you can see socialism, and capitalism are directly at odds with one another. Likewise when Mao liberated China, he seized private industries, and nationalized them. Qadafi also did this when he liberated Libya.

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The government doesn't own the means of production, so America is literally practicing 0% Socialism.

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ParadoxMan(53) Disputed
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The government doesn't own the means of production, so America is literally practicing 0% Socialism.

But you rely on publicly funded social programs and have publicly owned institutions.

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Spuds(1074) Disputed
2 points

That are funded by taxes paid by people who own their production and means of production. The government doesn't own these businesses or means of production that fund said programs. Capitalism funding social programs isn't socialism. It's Capitalism funding social programs. The government isn't producing anything to create revenue to pay for anything.

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CrapWeasel(537) Disputed
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They aren't "publicly funded". Publically funded means the government creates the money on its own to pay for programs. It does not. It gathers taxes and is funded by Capitalists who own their own production.

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Capitalism depends on socialism to work and vice versa

Hello:

Nahhh… Capitalism can operate just fine without socialism.. But, since socialism is incapable of raising capital, it CANNOT operate WITHOUT capitalism..

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Amarel(5669) Clarified
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Capitalism can operate just fine without socialism..

I would be inclined to agree. But this statement seems to contradict your earlier position. Capitalism does not work fine without Police and other government protections.

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