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Pro Gay Adoption No to Gay Adoption
Debate Score:68
Arguments:48
Total Votes:71
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Chaos and Confusion Gay Adoption is Morally Wrong

This is a question of right and wrong, when it comes to GLBT adoptins, Yes I do agree there are children in the foster care system who are in dire need of love, and a place to call home, but placing children in the homes of glbt is morally wrong, and  irresponsible. Because of the lack of information on the effects of gay adoption, and the fact that adoption agencies are not required to give statistics on a adoptions that fall under this category, this to me shows a huge amount of neglect.The only thing that is focused on is the outward appearances,and a few smiling faces of gay adoptees, and the children they have adopted, well pictures, can be deceiving. No one talks about the scorn, and the taunting that some of the children receive. No one talks about how some children are ostracized, at school, and in the communities they live in. No one talks about the children who do not want to be raised by gay parents, given their previous rearing, and what their natural parents beliefs system were based on. No one talks about the failed adoptions, and the reasons behind it.Moreover, most of all, more people may be against it, but because of the view on political correctness, they tend to become flexible, saying that the need for children to be exited out of overcrowded foster care system, out ways the sense for moral responsibility.

 

Pro Gay Adoption

Side Score: 56
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No to Gay Adoption

Side Score: 12
3 points

There are a lot of misconceptions in your debate description:

This is a question of right and wrong, when it comes to GLBT adoptins, Yes I do agree there are children in the foster care system who are in dire need of love, and a place to call home, but placing children in the homes of glbt is morally wrong, and irresponsible.

Homosexuality is only "morally" wrong according to some religions. By non-religious standards, two adults having consensual sex has no victim, hence hard to say there is some moral thing wrong with the act. Since this country was founded and clearly defines itself as a non-secular government, it is not within anyone's right, constitutionally at least though the religious have been trying to change this, to limit the freedoms of individuals based on homosexuality. As to the irresponsibility charge... that sounds like an assumption. It seems more irresponsible to deny a child a home.

Because of the lack of information on the effects of gay adoption, and the fact that adoption agencies are not required to give statistics on a adoptions that fall under this category, this to me shows a huge amount of neglect.

There is actually tons of information on gay adoption. Here's just one of many, many articles on the subject from the American Psychology Association link

There is 0 evidence children are in any way negatively impacted by being raised by a gay couple, nor any that they magically turn gay themselves.

The only thing that is focused on is the outward appearances,and a few smiling faces of gay adoptees, and the children they have adopted, well pictures, can be deceiving. No one talks about the scorn, and the taunting that some of the children receive. No one talks about how some children are ostracized, at school, and in the communities they live in.

That a handful of morons are still so unevolved they actually think there is anything wrong with being gay or being raised by gay parents, is not inself enough reason to discontinue it. It would be like "Some people make fun of Christians (me) therefore Christians shouldn't raise children" - see? That said less christian parents would in fact actually = less bigoted homophobia.

No one talks about the children who do not want to be raised by gay parents, given their previous rearing, and what their natural parents beliefs system were based on.

Kids are overjoyed to be adopted by anyone who will be a good parent, gay or straight. And why the fuck would the beliefs of the parent who gave them up for adoption be a consideration? That's just stupid.

No one talks about the failed adoptions, and the reasons behind it.

Sure they do. That's one of the most studied things concerning adoption. It's found over and over by every independant source that homosexual parents do just as good a job, in fact often a better job, of raising children as straight parents.

Moreover, most of all, more people may be against it, but because of the view on political correctness, they tend to become flexible, saying that the need for children to be exited out of overcrowded foster care system, out ways the sense for moral responsibility.

What are you trying to say? This sentence makes no sense.

Side: Pro Gay Adoption
Safiya(152) Disputed
1 point

Most kids raised by gay parents turn gay we dont need all our kids turning gay man geesh

Side: No to Gay Adoption
Sitara(11080) Disputed
1 point

Can you quote a reliable scientific study proving this ?

Side: Pro Gay Adoption
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
1 point

The gay to straight ratio is exactly the same whether the parents are gay or straight. This is a fact.

And what would you care if there were more gay people? If you are not gay then how on earth could it possibly affect you at all.

Sorry, but it just seems like such a stupid reply on so many levels. First you state something as fact which has been shown to be 100% false, then you make a vague expression of disgust, as if you are in any way affected by another's sexuality.

I just don't get why anyone who was not gay would care. This weird thing against gays only makes sense if either one is in the closet themselves and displaying some subconscious self-hate, or they are very dumb and simply parroting what prejudices others have been spewing at them.

Side: Pro Gay Adoption
2 points

OF COURSE!!!

There are so many children who need a home, and if a couple, any couple, is wanting to give that child a good home then it shouldn't matter what kind of parents there are. Nothing else should matter as long as the child has a good loving home. That's the only thing that should be considered.

Side: Pro Gay Adoption
1 point

Technally people of the same sex can have sexual intercourse just like any other straight couple can. No gays can't have kids but they can adopt them just like a straight couple who can't have kids due to medcial reasons and they decide to adopt a child instead. If a child is being neglected and just needs a home where people can show them love no matter what why must other people selffishness put a stop to that? People need to start relizing that homosexuals are just as equal as everyone else noone should be treated any different just because of their sexual preference.

Side: Pro Gay Adoption

This is a question of right and wrong, when it comes to GLBT adoptins, Yes I do agree there are children in the foster care system who are in dire need of love, and a place to call home, but placing children in the homes of glbt is morally wrong, and irresponsible.

Please explain why this is either wrong or irresponsible- aside from religious concerns, which are irrelevant insofar as legislation is concerned.

Because of the lack of information on the effects of gay adoption, and the fact that adoption agencies are not required to give statistics on a adoptions that fall under this category, this to me shows a huge amount of neglect.

This is a criticism against the current implementation of adoption in general, not a criticism specific to LBGT adoption, and as such is irrelevant to the point you're trying to make.

The only thing that is focused on is the outward appearances,and a few smiling faces of gay adoptees, and the children they have adopted, well pictures, can be deceiving. No one talks about the scorn, and the taunting that some of the children receive. No one talks about how some children are ostracized, at school, and in the communities they live in. No one talks about the children who do not want to be raised by gay parents, given their previous rearing, and what their natural parents beliefs system were based on.

What about the taunting and scorn children receive when they have a single parent? What about the taunting and scorn children receive because of the profession(s) of their parent(s)? What about the taunting and scorn children receive in general, because children tend to be cruel to one another? These are not criticisms of LGBT adoption- these are criticisms of bigotry amongst children and the community in general. If it's an open adoption, the parents have the option to say no, so no problems there. Children up for adoption who are old enough to understand what 'gay' is get a say in their adoption as well. Previous rearing and the natural parents beliefs, therefore are completely irrelevant in an open adoption, and are legally enforced as completely irrelevant in a closed adoption.

No one talks about the failed adoptions, and the reasons behind it. Moreover, most of all, more people may be against it, but because of the view on political correctness, they tend to become flexible, saying that the need for children to be exited out of overcrowded foster care system, out ways the sense for moral responsibility.

The rate of failed adoptions is actually higher amongst heterosexual couples than it is amongst homosexual couples, though they're both within one standard deviation of the overall rate; the sexual preferences of the parents do not appear to be a meaningful factor as to whether an adoption succeeds or fails. Again, you criticize LGBT adoption when really the issue is one of bigotry amongst the populace.

You have not made any case for labelling gay adoption as morally wrong, and in fact all you've done with this debate is highlight the problem of prejudice and general bigotry directed towards the LGBT community.

You ought to be ashamed, really. Please back your claims if you're going to make them.

Side: Pro Gay Adoption

I defend gay adoption for the following reasons: It is not always possible to adhere to the perfect heteronormative family, and children without families deserve one. Isa my Mother a bad mother because she was a single mother? No. My life was better after the divorce, not worse.

Side: Pro Gay Adoption

I would much rather have loving and caring same sex adoptive parents than abusive and/or neglectful opposite sex ones.

Side: Pro Gay Adoption

Gay parents have just the right to adopt as Straight parents.

Side: Pro Gay Adoption
1 point

No to gay adoption because you can't have sex with the person that is the same gender as you. There is no possible way to do this.

Side: No to Gay Adoption
sundari(44) Disputed
2 points

So you think that only those couples who can actually have sex should be given a right for adoption?

Side: Pro Gay Adoption
Srom(12206) Disputed
1 point

We should not have gay adoption because you can't have sex with the same gender as the person. There is no way you can have a kid. Also the reason why they are adopting is because they know they can't have sex because they are the same gender and also they want a kid

Side: No to Gay Adoption
Jungelson(3959) Disputed
2 points

Godamnit Srom, I used to not mind you...

Side: Pro Gay Adoption
1 point

Are you mad at what he said 800+ days ago?

Side: Pro Gay Adoption
Srom(12206) Disputed
0 points

So you used to like me or not?

Side: No to Gay Adoption
1 point

Im sorry lil bro, but I disagree, and ill leave it at that.

Side: Pro Gay Adoption
Srom(12206) Disputed
1 point

That was 805 days ago.

Side: No to Gay Adoption
1 point

If your definition of sex is limited to vaginal sexual intercourse, I would LOVE to meet your daughter!

Side: Pro Gay Adoption