Christianity: Questions, Answers, Discuss, Debate for those Truly Interested.
John 3
19 This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil.
20 For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
21 But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God.”
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For any of you who are seeking answers, or have spiritual insight to share. Iron sharpens iron.
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What is considered apostate in Christianity? God showed me an interesting comparison. The two sides of apostasy. The climb that one goes from the most violent to degrees of less violent which is apostate in Islam. Where in Christianity the most violent are evil and depraved in apostasy. And every degree closer to Christ is less violent but still apostate. The disciple is martyred over violence. And that is considered a joy in Heaven. From strict Islam the most violent to the not so ferverent supporter who is a little less violent and the less violent according to evil god allah, and his evil prophet mohammad. And every degree that is less violent than the ferverent is apostate in Islam. So the opposite is true of YHWY, who judges viloent evil men, and vengeance is His judgment. In Jesus we lay our lives down in this world. We are not of this world, we live in it and do good in it, but we do not get tangled in the violence and bitterness of it. We are salt and light. So Christianity starts in the polar opposite direction of Islam. Disciples of Christ, who loves Him with all of their hearts are not violent, or bitter, or brutal, nor vengeant. Every degree of that is considered apostate, as the fallen move toward violence. The ultimate in violence as seen in many activisms and political apostasy. Catholicism and murder of every kind is the darkest symptom possible in the heart of an apostate so called Christian. Isaiah 53 describe to a "T" the trial and crucifixion in detail by the chapter not just the verse. So Jesus has special authentication identifying in that same detail since the first writing and before then He was verbally told of. Mohammad has one ref about being illiterate. And somehow out of millions of illiterate people they believe he was identified. It doesn't make sense. Isaiah also preforetold of Cyrus, a Persian ruler, identified by detail of name rank and serial number so to speak, told of his name and actions and from what nation, 150 years before the guy was born. If I'm correct I want you to know. Because Id want you there sharing Heaven and Eternal Life with me. So even if you get mad at me for a day, what if it made you glad for eternity? That would be a fair trade off. Wouldn't it? Why do JW's feel as though they know more about God and his intent and desires than anybody else? What makes them think they have an inside track in Theodicy? Do you even know what that word means without looking it up? Where does there arrogance and smugness come from? If not from downright egomaniacal delusion? Especially when even Jesus himself said that nobody knows details of God? Such as the hour and time he will come? Why do JW's brazenly break so many of jesus' teachings? Why do they deny the gospels? Like denying the cross, and calling it a pike? Also....exactly how fucking many psychotropic meds are you on? SS FYI - Johova Witnesses are a cult. They follow false doctrines, of a false prophet! Another of many deceptions. Note to those swept by the flood of subjective truth theology: According to the Bible they have heretic false doctrines. So even if reverent people can be led by false doctrine. As in Islam, many other religions so called Christian or not
So if people are looking to follow Christ then we look to scripture to measure truth. So anyone is welcome to believe whatever they like. This post is for the benefit of those interested in truth according to the Bible. Its not an argument it is an absolute statement evaluated by the Bible. 1 John 4:1 [ Testing the Spirits ] Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. Matthew 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. Matthew 24:11 Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many. And again you are severely misquoting the words of Jesus. He never said no one knows the details of God. He said the opposite. John 14: 16-18 16 I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever; 17 that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you. 18 “I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. Jesus not knowing day or hour... The word clearly says the Father is subjecting all things under the Son. They are two persons who are one. And the Son is subject to the Father. They are two different persons. They are "the Lord our God is One." And "Let Us make man in our image" and "I and the Father are One" All things were made through Jesus. He is the Creator. John 1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. The commandment says the Lord your God is One. It doesnt say He is One God. Jesus also said, I and the Father are One. And Jesus quotes this scripture of what David said, and then provokes the Pharisees to explain it. 41 Now while the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them a question: 42 “What do you think about the Christ, whose son is He?” They said to Him, “The son of David.” 43 He said to them, “Then how does David in the Spirit call Him ‘Lord,’ saying, 44 ‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Until I put Your enemies beneath Your feet”’? 45 If David then calls Him ‘Lord,’ how is He his son?” 46 No one was able to answer Him a word, nor did anyone dare from that day on to ask Him another question. . Questions that Jehovah's Witnesses do not like to be asked. If the organization did not actually prophesy the end in 1925 and 1975, then how come so many Witnesses left the faith immediately afterwards? ("They lost roughly three-quarters of the movement between 1925 and 1928, then suffered huge losses after 1975, when the end didn't come as they had implied over and over again," said Jim Penton, an ex-Witness who writes entries on Jehovah's Witnesses for the Encyclopedia Americana.) If the Watchtower organization rejects others calling them "inspired" yet the Watchtower organization does call themselves "God's Spirit-directed Prophet" what is the difference? Is there such a thing as an "uninspired prophet"? See Organization claims inspiration Has the Society ever taught anything scripturally incorrect? See Prophecy Blunders of the Organization Might the Society be teaching anything scripturally incorrect now? Since the Organization has received "new light" regarding the 1914 generation, and completely changed their view on this, does this mean that all the former Jehovah's witnesses who were disfellowshipped years ago for the same view the organization is now teaching will automatically be accepted into fellowship again? Were these Ex-Jw's in fact disfellowshipped for truth and knew things that the governing body did not? See Jw's were disfellowshipped for rejecting generation doctrine Can Jehovah's Witnesses hold and discuss openly with other Jehovah's Witnesses opinions that differ from orthodox Watch Tower doctrine? Can individuals read & understand the Bible alone, or do they need an organization and it's publications to do so? Click here find the answer! How do you prove from the Bible that 1935 was the year for the selection to heaven stopped due to being filled? What is the difference between a Catholic appealing to "what the organization tells him" about December 25 being the date of Jesus' birthday and a Jw' appealing to "what the organization tells him" about the date 1935? Is it not hypocritical when you chide the "poor deluded Catholic" that his faith cannot find a Bible passage to support it, when the same goes for you and 1935? How do you know that there were any vacancies, if any, in the 144,000 class if Jesus offered this to first century Christians? How can the organization know the exact number of vacancies today without any records from the first century? Why are you called, "Jehovah's Witnesses" and not "Christians"? Since Jehovah's Witnesses appeal to Isa 43:12; 44:8 for scriptural support that they should be called, "Jehovah's Witnesses" then what was the "new name" prophesied in Isa 62:2? Can't be "Jehovah's Witnesses", for God already used it 20 chapters earlier. Could the new name be "Christian" after our savior "Christ"? Why would the name God gave to His people not be "Christians" since Acts 11:26 says, "The disciples were first called Christians" The Watchtower and Johova Witnesses are a cult organizarion that denies the knowledge of Christ. I will not comment in defense for their doctrines because they are not at all a Christian religion. They have even made changes in some scriptures in the Bible that contradict their doctrines. Such as John 1. And it can be confirmed inaccurate easily and with free tools like Blue Letter Bible on line, where you can see and compare the Greek or Hebrew through "tool" next to each verse. To see the literal translation. The JW'(s) add a simple word "a" calling Jesus "a god." In this scripture they absolutely change the meaning of this verse. They add to the word of God in this instance to cover their false doctrine and purposely to deceive by using it to disable questioning their false doctrine. And by doing so, they change the actual statement made by John as shown in the Greek. Knowing who Christ is, is foundational. Without knowing who Christ is in the flesh, you cannot receive the truth and the Gospel. Deuteronomy 4:2 You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you. . 1
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Johova Witnesses are incorrect about the 144000. The 144000 are Jews The great multitude are martyrs that come out of the Great Tribulation. Revelation 7 3 saying, “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees until we have sealed the bond-servants of our God on their foreheads.” 4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, one hundred and forty-four thousand sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel: 5 from the tribe of Judah, twelve thousand were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand, from the tribe of Gad twelve thousand, 6 from the tribe of Asher twelve thousand, from the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand, from the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand, 7 from the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand, from the tribe of Levi twelve thousand, from the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand, 8 from the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand, from the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand, from the tribe of Benjamin, twelve thousand were sealed. 9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands; 10 and they cry out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.” Johova Witnesses are incorrect about the 144000. The 144000 are Jews The great multitude are martyrs that come out of the Great Tribulation. Revelation 7 3 saying, “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees until we have sealed the bond-servants of our God on their foreheads.” 4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, one hundred and forty-four thousand sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel: 5 from the tribe of Judah, twelve thousand were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand, from the tribe of Gad twelve thousand, 6 from the tribe of Asher twelve thousand, from the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand, from the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand, 7 from the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand, from the tribe of Levi twelve thousand, from the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand, 8 from the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand, from the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand, from the tribe of Benjamin, twelve thousand were sealed. 9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands; 10 and they cry out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.” |
