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Debate Score:38
Arguments:18
Total Votes:38
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Christians only: Would you believe in God if there was no Bible?

Christians only: Would you believe in God if there was no Bible? I would because belief in God is just so logical. It is logical because there would be no order to the Universe if there was no God. Think about it atheists and agnostics who are watching.

Yes.

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No.

Side Score: 18

I honestly wouldn't think that that could happen period! I would because God spoke to people in the biblical days that didn't have God's word and I believe that He could still speak to us without a Bible.

Side: Yes.
2 points

In some of the Bible stories like Abraham He believed in God and there was no Bible also those other people in the Bible believed in God and they didn't have the Bible. But see the Bible is evidence that God existed and without the Bible ,archaeologists wouldn't be able to find some things that some of the Bible people lived in. Also the archaeologists find stuff in foreign areas and they look in the Bible and find stuff where the Bible told where the place was.

Side: Yes.
justwannakno(1) Disputed
1 point

You can't USE the Bible to back up saying that you don't need the Bible. You have to look at something OUTSIDE of the Bible and show how this supports your case that people would still believe a God as the Bible describes without having the Bible in front of them. Your argument is a falacy because it appeals to what it is trying to prove as a proof. A proof has to be a proven fact. Since we are trying to prove that people would still believe that God exists without the Bible, it CANNOT be a proven fact that anything happening IN the Bible is happening OUTSIDE of the Bible as well. So, it's a circle. Your argument is completely unraveled by logic

Side: No.
1 point

Yes, Christianity survived for quite some time without a Bible. The gospel was orated and passed from one person to another for quite some time. In history this is quite common for many events. Even without the Bible the gospel would still be spread.

Side: Yes.
1 point

Most likely. Even without the Bible, life is living proof that God exists. There has to be someone above man.

Side: Yes.
5 points

Without the Bible it is hard to believe in what is known as truth. The Word of God is infallible and inerrant. THe reason the Bible is so important is that it gives us a written account of the truth of God. For example the New Testament books were written no more than eighty years from the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. The soonest of the New Testament was to be written no longer than that of fifteen years. With that being said the Bible was composed so that we as man can know the Word of God as it was originally written and not passed down from many generations with the possibility of the original message being corrupted.

Side: No.
2 points

I'm obviously not a Christian, but no one else was debating on here and this is actually an interesting concept.

From what I've heard from Christians, I think there would be a few who would have to say no. Because they refer only to the bible when questioned about their faith, and that is where they put all their faith in.

Then again, I know one of my Christian friends, who respects the bible as the book of his faith, but does not put too much faith in it, because he is aware of how many hands it has gone through, and how people twist the words to make it say what they want. For people like him, they obviously find their faith elsewhere and wouldn't be swayed simply by a missing book.

Side: No.
Srom(12206) Disputed
3 points

The Bible hasn't been alterted. When archaeologist found the Dead Sea Scrolls which was the book of Isaish in the Bible. The compared the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Bible and they found out that the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Book of Isaish was word for word like in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Side: Yes.
casper3912(1581) Disputed
2 points

There are numerous mid-evil Codecs that would beg to differ.

Further more I highly doubt that Armenian,Greek, and Hebrew scripts were word for word the same as the modern bibles written in numerous languages, although primarily English.

What bibles were the sea-scrolls compared to?

It should also be noted that extra-biblical documents were found with them, maybe something wasn't canalized?

what have you to challenge wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls#Significance_to_the_Canon_of_the_Bible

Side: No.
chatturgha(1631) Disputed
2 points

The Bible hasn't been alterted

It's been altered about several hundred times throughout it's history of being published by the Catholic (and then Protestant) Church.

If it wasn't altered, you would be able to speak Latin, you silly goose.

The only Holy Scripture in existence today that hasn't been altered would be the Quran, which is still written in ancient Arabic as when it was originally created. As in, followers of Islam actually have to learn an entire new language to even read their scripture.

The Bible though, is nothing like this. It's been altered and even censored many, many times over the course of it's existence.

Side: No.
Saurbaby(5581) Disputed
1 point

How do you know? The book has been through so many hands, anyone could have altered it. Not to mention the translations. I can think of many words in the bible that translate into more than one word, people simply pick the word that fits what they want the most and that's that. And that's just a part of it, you know it's a bigger book than just one part of it.

Side: No.
2 points

I believe in God but in a different way than most would think of him I see him as an Extraterrestrial why you may ask simple what else could he be.. I mean he has to be something right and by ET i mean if he is not from this world or universe then he is an extraterrestrial and since he made this universe and world he is an extraterrestrial plan and simple. But anyways I could still believe in God with no bible but I do not see it as the only book to look into as the Sumerian book was written long before the bible came out and has a heck of a lot of similar stories as the bible does which makes one wonder..

Side: No.

You say in the title 'Christians Only,' but then at the end of the debate description, make a shout out to atheists and agnostics. Were you expecting them to not reply after such a thing or were you? It's somewhat confusing.

But onto my response; speaking from experience as having been Christian in the past, and also an objectively logical thinker in the present, it's obvious that without the Bible to spread the Word, how would people have the knowledge to believe in Christianity?

People would likely end up as a different religion, or thinking up their own ideas and philosophies in place of the ideology lost in the absence of the Bible. Books, after all, are the heralds of all ideas; ideas without books never last, and ideas put into books have a potential to last forever.

So without the Bible, many people would not believe in the Christian God, because without the Bible, the religion would not have spread out in the first place. Without the Bible, I would have never been a Christian at any point in my life, and therefore I would have never at any point necessarily believed in the Christian God.

Side: No.