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 Christians why won't you question the Bible? (42)

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Christians why won't you question the Bible?

Normally I'd stop making waves, and accept that the difference between the religious and the non religious was that e are on two different spectrums. Yet you think you're on the same spectrum as us, and you won't even point out what's wrong with your God, or at the very least what is wrong in what is written about him. I hate to say this (I mean really hate to say it) but the best Christian I have met, if she really is one, is Sitara/DanaForYeshua/Ismalia. Unlike the lot, she questions him, and she has her own opinions of the world, not based off of some ancient book, but because of the book's affect on her morality and the way the world actually works. No one is saying leave the faith (or at least I'm not) just question what does not belong, for the love of God, question what does not belong.

A platypus, and the words where God went wrong.

Again, don't get into a huffy over the picture, it's mildly relavent.

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We question. Some of us come to conclusions. We either affirm ourselves with the bible or not.

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we come from a long line of questioners. Jacob, Job, Thomas, and Jesus Himself.

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I am a Christian who questions the Bible. .

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1 John 4:1 -- Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

We do; we just have come to the conclusion that there is nothing wrong with the Bible.

Elvira(3446) Disputed
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He looked behind him and saw them, and cursed them in the name of Yahweh. Two female bears came out of the woods, and mauled forty-two of those youths.

lolzors93(3225) Disputed
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What about it?

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I agree!

Quocalimar(6470) Disputed
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Srom, I found you to be one of the tolerable ones. It is mostly my biased that liked you because you did not make waves, but that time is over. Think, really think.

How can an all powerful, and all loving being standby why evil happens? It's not because we have free will, because we can use our free will to do evil, and God in his all lovingness could still stop us, since he couldn't stand to see his creations fight, and since he couldn't stand to know his creations would burn for eternity.

Mind me for using another of my overplayed analogies, but it's the only weapon I have against people who don't see as I do, which is what I believe to be objectively logical.

If your child was on a destructive path, and you loved that child, wouldn't you do everything in your power to stop them from going down that path?

I would hope so, and if so, then why can't God, with more power than you, stop atheists from being atheists, stop murders from wanting to murderer, etc. He wouldn't void out free will by helping us to be better, he'd be using his all powerful and all loving self to guide us on the right track. You love your children, and know they will make mistakes, but you love them too much to let those mistakes cost them their lives right?

Quocalimar(6470) Disputed
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Then it as Nox0 says, and I'm afraid there is nothing more to say. There is no point in arguing if you've already made up your mind that the person you are disputing is wrong.

lolzors93(3225) Disputed
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I've said it multiple times before, I did not come to this site to learn or to debate. I came to this site to show atheists that they are wrong and to possibly convert some of them through logic, and to teach Christians that their religion is the most logical worldview. If it is something minor to the big points and someone shows me that I am wrong, then I will admit that I am wrong. However, in regards to the big issues, I side with Dostoevsky who said the following: “If someone proved to me that Christ is outside the truth, and that in reality the truth were outside of Christ, then I should prefer to remain with Christ rather than with the truth.”

atypican(4875) Disputed
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Which by extension means you have come to the conclusion that there is no room for improvement regarding how you interpret scripture. Way to be prideful. I hear Jesus has a special surprise in store for the prideful.

lolzors93(3225) Disputed
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How have I been prideful here? I gave credit to God, not myself. Please check your facts before commenting again.

There are parts that i do question, mostly found in the later gospels. Still for the most part, I see the bible as a guide for me to improve myself.

Then I, as a non Christian, see you as a great Christian. No scientist in their right mind would just accept what another scientists says, not would they just accept that apples fall from trees, they'd test retest and question everything until they had the answers themselves. With faith you can only test so much, but to close your mind to any answers, because you've surmised that one text is correct is always going to lead to bad things.

I will say that genesis does not bother me so much because i see it as a metaphor for what happened during creation as opposed to an exact testament. I believe in planned evolution, which i see as a balance between my religious and scientific perspectives.

As my answer, I believe it's that you're afraid you'll find one thing wrong, then another, then before you know it, you will have left that thing you've been apart of for so long, that has always kept you safe and made you feel warm. If this comes off as insulting, it's only because that's the way you perceive it, as a bad thing.

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They're afraid to question it.

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I think a lot of people have been taught by church leaders that to question the Bible is wrong, my view is that they are afraid that if people question it they will lose their power and hold over their followers

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I question my Bible all the time, but when I arrive to a different conclusion than someone else arrived to, I am an idiot.

Its funny because we do question it alot of times. We see problems then we try to answer it. When we do answer, we are ridiculed for being biased when we are simply answering a question we were asking ourselves. No, we don't drop our faith at the first sign of trouble. We search for answers to questions we have and because we find, we learn to trust the Bible. Sorry if some people havent learned to do that, we have. Please get off our backs. Christian does not mean non-thinker.

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Hey I did question the bible when I was a youngin'. Now I'm not Christian! Of course I'm... not athiest either but let me tell you that was a fun phase. It's a good thing my folks are heathen now because during that period of time? Whew. Talk about being disowned.