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Cloning No Cloning
Debate Score:22
Arguments:22
Total Votes:22
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Cloning or No Cloning

Animal cloning is a violation of animal rights.

Cloning

Side Score: 11
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No Cloning

Side Score: 11
1 point

I'm not in favor of cloning just anything and everything. With most species that isn't even needed. However:

1) It is indeed possible for extinct or near extinct species to be cloned and I actually think that's pretty cool and could be constructive in saving the species.

2) It is also possible one organism with a very specific biology, such as one particular sheep with genetics that allows it to grow a rare medicine for a rare disease, might be cloned before it's death so that the rare medicine might continue to be grown via it's clone.

3) It's also possible that just a small part of the animal may be replicated, like growing a new limb, and that could actually extend the life and well being of the animal by replacing a limb which was lost.

Side: Cloning
Roach(12) Disputed
2 points

I understand your point but with farm animals the cloning is not needed and it takes too much time and government

Side: No Cloning
Hugoyoghur(52) Disputed
1 point

You don't get to repeat your argument, that's called redundancy and a lack of arguments, so to balance out the poll I just wanted to point that out, I'll be responding to your point in your repeat of the argument.

Side: Cloning
Roach(12) Disputed
2 points

I understand your point but with farm animals the cloning is not needed and it takes too much time and government money and they are wasting animals and their embryos p.s. this is the same i forgot my password

Side: No Cloning
Hugoyoghur(52) Disputed
1 point

I would disagree with your statement because although you may say they are wasting animals at cloning centers. I would argue that they are also wasting and mass killing and effectively torturing the majority of the animals that meat manufacturing factories host.

Via hormonal injections, physically making holes in the cow's side to reach with their hand into their stomachs and place certain things or remove excess dung to stop the clotting of the overworked animal. Claustrophobic cages, poor treatment, brutal killing. Just look at all the documentaries about chicken or cow factories and the unethical practices undertaken by the companies.

Ultimately I would argue that the few animals that are hurt during the development of better cloning options is worthwhile, as in the long run we would be able to get rid of the factory system to implement a more efficient, ethical and environmentally friendly system that still produces meat for everyone in need of it.

Side: Cloning
1 point

I agree with the various points that Grenache made.

I am not in favor in cloning everything, but I still believe that there are many things that could be cloned and would be better for society as a whole. In addition to what Grenache said:

A) Cloning research could help us discover the secret to longer lasting (or even eternal) youth, by cloning the same parts of your body that are growing old or weak and replacing them.

B) If we learn to clone animals, we could clone just chunks of meat, and therefore get rid of the terribly inefficient, unethical and painful meat factory system that we have set up globally. This would result in no pain for animals as we wouldn't have to kill them for meat, we could just eat cloned meat. It would also result in less deforestation which is normally caused by big farms cutting down forests for land for more factories.

C) There may be many scientific possibilities that we are unaware of that would be unlocked if we master cloning, and therefore we would be able to advance our race in ways we can't predict at the moment due to the fact we don't understand Cloning fully.

Side: Cloning
1 point

I do agree but why test it on living animals rather than food?

Side: Cloning

Bringing back extinct things would be pretty cool. But it can be disastrous.

Side: Cloning
Hugoyoghur(52) Clarified
1 point

Beauty and chaos tend to come hand in hand, wouldn't you agree? <3

Side: Cloning
LadyLinkstar(415) Clarified
1 point

Of course. I wouldn't trust anyone who doesn't believe in that.

Side: Cloning

If you could clone yourself and raise that child to think like you, it would be as close to immortal as possible

Side: Cloning

I believe that animal cloning is a good thing, as it helps advance science.

Scientists are starting to learn how to develop synthetic brains and produce meat and burgers out of artificially constructed cells stacked together, so technology is improving tremendously.

Side: Cloning
1 point

I'm only on the cloning side of the argument IF nobody would misuse the technology and only the government or NASA and organizations like these could use it under extreme surveillance. However, it would only be used with species whose numbers are low and they're endangered or almost endangered. We wouldn't use this technology to make money, it would be used to repopulate and fulfill nature back into the world.

Side: Cloning
1 point

human life is short. with cloning, human life can find ways to be longer. also, scientific studies can be more accurate. also we can clone food and end world hunger.

Side: Cloning
2 points

I am a middle school student. I had to do a report on this. It was found in my research that it was considered animal cruelty and the results are terribly deformed animals. Plus it wastes billions of government dollars that could be going towards making the U.S a better place instead of letting the once great cities of the U.S spiral into the death traps they are becoming like Detroit was once a great place to be now it is one of the most violent cities in Michigan. If you agree post on my side the opposition of animal cloning.

Side: No Cloning
Grenache(6053) Clarified
1 point

I respect that you did your research and also that you came onto this site to talk about it. Keep up the good work.

See my comment in the other column. Also I just wanted to say that the majority of research on cloning isn't by the government but by private industry and since private industry cares about products to sell it isn't really about just cranking out cloned animals themselves. It's about medicines and surgery and probably in some cases agriculture.

Side: Cloning
Hugoyoghur(52) Disputed
1 point

When you say "wastes billions of government dollars" , you were probably reading from a source that was considering the short-term impacts of the cloning research.

Furthermore if you think cloning is animal cruelty, think of the 1 billion cows we kill every year for human consumption. Also think of the terrible ethical treatment animals in these factories receive. I would argue the animal farm treatment of animals are far worse, because in animal farms the goal is to grow the biggest animal in the shortest amount of time to get the biggest chunk of meat with the least costs. Therefore animals are treated like shit (pardon the language but it's true), and not only that they are treated with the notion that they are going to die soon anyways so it doesn't matter.

On the other hand in cloning research, the researchers are actually interested in ensuring the animals come out better and healthier, so their ethical measures are clearly going to be better even if they still have made a few mistakes. But they are only human, and they are trying, because in the long run cloning meat without having to go through the process of growing and killing a living animal may be more efficient and painless.

Side: Cloning
1 point

I do support this claim. I am also a middle school student and also had to study this. Cloning wastes tons of money and in my opinion, there is no point in creating them. I think that cloning is an amazing leap in technology but the money that we spend on it should go to more important things that this world needs.

Side: No Cloning
1 point

it is unnatural, it could be bad for the environment in future but we dont know because we havent looked into it properly. it oculd release a specific chemical that poisons the universe

Side: No Cloning
1 point

just 3D print the organ. cheaper and less morally taxing that way.

Side: No Cloning
1 point

We should not mess up with Animal Right or even Human Right!

Cloning may not necessary enhance the biodiversity! I mean we may copy and clone the same genes of some animals in the Red Book! Instead of cloning, there are still many ways to protect animals! However, human greed may not let it to happen!

If we increase Animal Cloning with advanced Technology! Some people may come up with idea with Human Cloning! This is even more troublesome and in a long time, it may affect both Human and Animal genes!

Genes is a complex system! We may not know the result for long period of time!

Side: No Cloning