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Saved a would be stab-victim Shot a teen defending herself
Debate Score:30
Arguments:22
Total Votes:35
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Saved a would be stab-victim

Side Score: 16
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Shot a teen defending herself

Side Score: 14
1 point

This side is likely correct. However, a trained cop should not be bringing a gun to a knife fight! If he does, one shot with a laser sight (which most cops have), to the shoulder or leg would likely settle the matter! That is if a taser or pepper spray or just a quick slap across the face didn't work (with a young teenage girl)! Dangerous creatures, these teens of today. Whether they are 20 ft away with their hands up or laying on the ground with their skirt up, they need three or four shots to the body or head to slow them down! Where's Dirty Harry when you need him?! Would he/she be so quick to shoot a white boy/girl? Nah.

Trigger happy we used to call it. I still DO! :-(

Funny you should stick an avatar of "Blind Justice" up. It seems cops shoot at any noise they hear today! They can still see the laser!

Side: Saved a would be stab-victim
Mongele(592) Disputed
1 point

Wow, you're one cool dude who knows how to react in an adrenaline charged, spilt second life threatening emergency.

It's blustering filth like you who sit in the comfort and safety of their cosy homes and spew out their high-minded bullshit when the nearest thing they ever came to deadly conflict was swatting a wasp, and even then probably crapped their trunks.

''Excuse me dear, would you mind awfully standing still for a few seconds so I can tase you, or alternatively would you please turn towards me as I want to pepper-spray your ugly mug and don't forget to keep your eyes wide open, no blinking if you don't mind''?

Know-it-all, contemptable fucks such as you are the lowest form of life on the planet, and indeed in the universe.

There's no fool like an old fool, and that's you all over.

Side: Shot a teen defending herself
Mongele(592) Disputed
1 point

Hey, AlofRi/Dead-Eye-Dick,

If you'd been the police officer involved in the fast-moving armed brawl I suppose you would have shot the knife out of the assailant's hand and socked her on the jaw with a restrained left-hook.

Then you could have given her a jolly good talking to and sent her on her way feeling thoroughly ashamed of herself.

ROARS OF HYSTERICAL LAUGHTER FROM THE BACK STALLS

MAN, MAN OH MAN, FROM WHERE DO YOU ARMCHAIR HEROS COME?

Side: Shot a teen defending herself
excon(15058) Disputed
1 point

If you'd been the police officer involved in the fast-moving armed brawl I suppose you would have shot the knife out of the assailant's hand

Hello Antrim:

It's called a taser.. They carry 'em for a reason.. Nobody had to die.

excon

Side: Saved a would be stab-victim
Amarel(5551) Clarified
0 points

A knife is a lethal weapon. In this case it was being used with lethal intent. A lethal force response was not only appropriate, but it saved a black life. Tasers have a 40 percent fail rate. You cannot pepper spray a person running away from you. Not only was there no other option that would have saved attack victim, but taking even more than 1/8 seconds to think about it would have allowed that knife to close the 12 inches that remained between the knife and the victims neck.

Being a teenager with a lethal weapon does not make you less lethal for the fact that you're a teenager. School shooters are often teenagers.

Are police trigger happy? This officer wasn't. He made the only choice that would save the attack victims life. Now, he not only has to live with these facts, but he also has to put up with national condemnation from the likes of Lebron James.

Are other cops generally trigger happy? Of the tens of millions of annual police contacts, less than 1% involve any use or threat of force. Of the thousand of arrests, only about 20% involved force, and most of that force (80%) is weaponless force such as grabbing or pulling.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ojp.gov/sites/g/files/xyckuh241/files/archives/ncjrs/176330-1.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiv2uHk8pHwAhWFB80KHR

Is blind justice a joke?

There was no statistically significant difference in the percentage of whites (12%) and blacks (11%) who experienced police-initiated contact.

https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=7167

Of the 55 unarmed people killed by police in 2020, 18 were black. Everyone equates unarmed with non-lethal threat, but it's just not so. Wapo considers you unarmed if you are attempting to grab a cops gun, attempting to run them over, or had only just dropped your weapon at the moment of the shooting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/ investigations/police-shootings-database/

Side: Saved a would be stab-victim
Hootie(429) Disputed Banned
2 points

A knife is a lethal weapon.

Also Amarel:-

A gun is nothing more than a tool for self-defence.

With people like you in it I don't even recognise this world any more.

Side: Shot a teen defending herself
1 point

A girl is about to kill another girl and your only chance to save that victim is to kill the attacker. Should you save the victim? Do you have it in you to do what is necessary to save the victim? If you kill the attacker, you will be mourned by the nation and you will be labeled a racist killer. If you let the killer kill, the victims family will mourn and no one on the national stage will know about any of it because black lives only matter when lost at the hands of police.

Side: Shot a teen defending herself
Jody(1785) Disputed Banned
2 points

black lives only matter when lost at the hands of police.

It is a cycle of American state brutality that has repeated itself year upon year, generation upon generation and it continues unabated supported and “justified “ by your type of people

Side: Saved a would be stab-victim
Amarel(5551) Disputed
1 point

It is a cycle of American state brutality that has repeated itself year upon year

What, exactly, is a cycle of state brutality?

Side: Shot a teen defending herself
Amarel(5551) Disputed
1 point

Your post in the context of this topic implies that you don't think a cop is justified in shooting someone who is actively trying to kill people with a knife.

Side: Shot a teen defending herself