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Challenge Debate: Communism Is The Ideal System So Far

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You are welcome. here is my opening statement. Communism is good because it liberates the proletariat from exploitation and no longer will they have to be alienated from their products. It is good because it promises healthcare, education and food for everyone, the guarantee comes with guaranteed jobs.

Side: For

Communism can actually work and that will happen when Capitalism collapses, the clock is ticking.

Side: For

Capitalism has an appetite for profit and it needs profit to stay alive and that is why it will fall. the only reason it survived an extra 200 years is because of wars for more land and resources.

Side: For

Capitalism allows the Bourgeoisie to get richer because the Surplus value goes to them and the Surplus Value is usually greater than the value equal to the labor power (which is what the proletariat gets) , but is it really fair that the Bourgeoisie gets richer out of the value which is equal to the supply and demand of the fruit of labor? while the proletariat gets what it deserves but less the Bourgeoisie who gets more money than them even though he does not deserve it? There is even a bigger problem, Capitalists argue that competition can help increase the wages for the proletariat and get more people employed because it essentially gets the industry to get bigger and more successful. But the problem is that when other industries start to compete with another, the other industry has to focus more of the Surplus value to get himself out of competition, however this won't last and so the Bourgeois is going to have to turn more of the money equal to the labor power power into surplus value, this is bad news for the proletariat. THIS VIDEO EXPLAINS IT BETTER http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v;=-e8r

Side: For
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Thanks for the invite...

I have to confess that I have been quite fond of communism as a form. But, if it is an ideal form, that is not conclusive. It never took on history. Communism is an awesome possibility but it is not likely to happen.

It traps economy to a number of chosen people. The independence that is rather available is banned in other words. It is utopian.

Communism is never to work as it requires like minded people to agree upon terms and conditions. But, that is quite a lot to expect.

Side: Against