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 Constant commercials covering animal abuse? Same people say nothing over late abortions. (27)

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Constant commercials covering animal abuse? Same people say nothing over late abortions.

Is it possible for a nation to become any more blind to their own hypocrisy and phoney sense of humanity? Texas tried to make a simple law of humanity whereby abortions past 20 weeks(five months) would be outlawed except in extreme cases of life of mother, etc. Is there any worse abuse to a living being than being torn apart alive in the womb?

Guess who fought that law as they always do? The Democrat party! If you vote for these hypocrites, you are as inhuman as they are. Is there anything you actully care about in this life? Oh that's right, you care about minimum wage, gun control, animal rights and environmentalism. These issues are your priority. The lives of healthy late term Babies is of no concern to you. Truly sickening!

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Claims of hypocrisy coming from both ends of the political spectrum, serve nothing. Demonizing Democrats is a waste of breath. Solving issues of governance requires cooperation. Your rhetoric serves nothing but division.

FromWithin(8239) Disputed
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You are whom I speak of. I'm talking about the inhuman practice of killing late term Babies for any reason & you sit there and spew the same old tired rhetoric of how both sides are hypocrites? Translation? YOU COULD CARE LESS about the lives of those Babies!

You are the result of a dead Godless nation that has lost all sense of decency and humanity. Both parties are indeed hypocrites on many issues but not when it comes to the inhumanity of late term abortions. If you can't discern the difference between atrocities of late term abortions vs the usual lies of politicians, then that is sickening.

daver(1771) Disputed
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You know nothing of me, yet you spout your hatred at me. I am resolved to offer you advice that will help you, if it is heeded.

I say again, you bring your cause no relief with your words and your manor. You win no hearts to your struggle with vile rhetoric against all Democrats in your incessant rants, on topic after topic. Consider your goals and take the measure of your tactic. You are failing in your mission to turn others to your beliefs. If persuasion is truly your aim, find a new voice. If spreading division is your aim, then be silent.

Harvard(660) Clarified
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That corporation method you suggested will solve nothing. That's just wishful thinking; what the govt. wants, they get, the people can do something, but the only time when the people (more than 60% of America) use their voice is when they know something directly, palpably effects their lives. Given that a large percent of the county doesn't even watch the news, I see that voice as a distant, fantastical entity succumbing to influence in the hand of pure darkness.

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There is too much controversy over something like abortions to make a commercial supporting either side of the abortion debate. Either way you broadcast all hell would break loose, and broadcasting companies aren't going to take that risk.

FromWithin(8239) Disputed
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Hmmmm, when it comes to abusing animals, you have no problem with commercials protecting their lives but when it comes to human Babies? You spew that kind of garbage excuses? What a crock!

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People are fine with killing animals when it is a mercy-killing or for self-defense - the same logic should apply with abortions.

Saurbaby(5579) Clarified
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I'm sorry, did I give my opinion on animal abuse or abortions? No. Because that's not what this was about, it's about commercials on them. And I explained why I believe one is aired, and not the other.

But yes, I don't want abortion commercials for either side.

And yes, I'm pro-choice.

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Animal charity ads are to gain money for shelters. If pro-life charities wanted to work the same way by raising money for orphanages/care homes, it may help to improve their image.

FromWithin(8239) Disputed
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Pro life charities would in a heart beat give any money gained from pro life commercials to help orphanages and stop the brutality of late term abortions. Democrats will NEVER allow such commercials because they lack the most basics of humanity and they live and breathe getting the pro choice votes. It's all politics case you are totally ignorant.

The image of pro life people has been tarnished by pathetic pro abortion Democrats who live and breathe politics & pro choice votes. Pro life people are a wonderful people of compassion for all, even our most defenseless unborn Babies, and have a wonderful image to any caring person of humanity.

Elvira(3445) Disputed
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The image of the pro-life movement has been tarnished by the types that force abortion clinics into closure, protest outside them (sometimes with ridiculously large r-18 banners) and push laws to make it more difficult for women to access safe abortions. While I don't fully agree with abortion, I do think it is something that is necessary in some situations. I think that in order to reduce the number of abortions it's not realistic to attack the women who are taking them. There are smarter, more productive ways to address the problem.

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you care about minimum wage, gun control, animal rights and environmentalism.

Taking care of these things--aside from guns--would be a direct benefit for the future of the earth. Since the earth is already immensely overpopulated, then abortion is actually better. I don't know if you have seen The Human Footprint, but it explains just how much one baby contributes to the earth demise. I takes 4 trees to support 1 baby (USA). With that said, babies, no matter how you wish to put it, are terrible and nonessential for the environment- who wants to be born in a desolate, hostile world caused by their own species?

(I understand the only purpose for living is to spread your genes, but since we figured out what happens when you overpopulate, and we know how to stop it, then I'll advocate for abortion at any stage. When I have a child, my child will live an environment-friendly life. It may cost a lot, but definitely will have the money to support it- and the ones who don't, really should have babies- Imo.)

FromWithin(8239) Disputed
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Your name tells much of the kind of amoral graduates coming out of our Liberal Colleges. This amoral world you just described is already showing the results of your ideology. For sake of self love, you and the self love progressives of the world will pick which segments of our population deserve to live or deserve to be executed. Why don't arrogant Liberals kill themselves rather than killing others to control population. Why is your life more important than that Baby's life? Are you glad your mother did not abort you? What arrogant dictators you are.

If you have one honest bone in your body, try looking at our culture since your Progressive ideology has been playing out in our society for the past 50 years. Lets see, rampant divorce rates, record numbers of broken families with no parents at home raising their children. Children from those broken homes joining gangs to have some semblance of family. We have welfare roles swollen from an amoral culture where people sleep around like animals, addicted to drugs, and a Liberal Government that wants to keep these welfare numbers high in order to garner their votes.

Yes we know how to stop over population and as usual, people like yourself refuse to address the CORE PROBLEM! Irresponsible self love easy sex lifestyles are the culprits. But those like yourself will say NOTHING about the immoral choices causing so many unwanted Babies. Your answer is to kill the Babies. Wow, that's what College grads learn in school? That's your culmination of 4 years of College? THAT'S SICK!

These new age self love Americans don't want to be bothered with birth control. They are the microwave mentality where the one night stand has no time to be responsible and think about birth control. Do you shame these people for their selfish choices?

No, you say there is no fault, just end the Baby's life. But when it comes to animals, it is the fault of those badddddd people who abuse these animals. Killing a late term Baby is the most barbaric brutal abuse and human could put on another.

That environment-friendly life you think your child will enjoy? It will be a life of constant fear from crime, debt, broken unhappy lives from an amoral culture ushered in by the amoral Liberal mentality in our media, Government & Colleges. It's so sad hearing people like yourself who think you have such intelligence but lack the basic wisdom & humanity to see how dead inside you have become.

Harvard(660) Clarified
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Why don't arrogant Liberals kill themselves rather than killing others to control population

Because I spend my life physically, and financially supporting projects intending to help the environment (mainly for wildlife).

I dint care about humans illusory souls, lives, meaning, and other nonsense; I only care for spreading my genes, and making sure the wildlife continues to persist and progress naturally- and if someone stopping a environmental liability (i.e. abortion) using their own free will helps- then I am all go.

Why is your life more important than that Baby's life? Are you glad your mother did not abort you? What arrogant dictators you are.

I wish my mom had aborted me as this is a dreadful unsatisfying world that I have entered in shackles with expectations of following laws that I may or may not agree with.

My conscious awareness of overpopulation; and that baby being a contributor; and me knowing that I do/will contribute to the world for the better; all of that is why my life is more important.

Yes we know how to stop over population and as usual, people like yourself refuse to address the CORE PROBLEM! Irresponsible self love easy sex lifestyles are the culprits. But those like yourself will say NOTHING about the immoral choices causing so many unwanted Babies. Your answer is to kill the Babies.

We know what will stop over population, but we don't know how to stop it in the way you suggest. We can edify the youth all we want, but that will change nothing; drugs will always be available as long as there are plants; sex will always feel good as long as biology contuse to work the way it does; and until one finds the cheapest easy to get secret on another method of birth control, women will always make irrational decisions to have sex (the irrationality being committing the action knowing the consequences). Since all of this is wishful thinking that you cant offer any suggestions for, then its obvious that you--as well as I--do not have the answers either.

p.s. my school has nothing to do with rational thinking and my convictions that conform with reality.

These new age self love Americans don't want to be bothered with birth control.

Oh come on... right, just exclude all of the other factors such as cost of birth control; controversial insurance policies that would cover such costs; and ALL of the other countries--which you've excluded--that generally lack awareness of such contraceptives.

But when it comes to animals, it is the fault of those badddddd people who abuse these animals. Killing a late term Baby is the most barbaric brutal abuse and human could put on another.

Seeing that animals--not babies--are the most unnaturally abused creatures- with the abuser being humans, then of course I will advocate on changing the world of wildlife for the better. Most animals live agonizing lives and die painfully; most fetuses die peacefully and quickly and have not ye even seen the outside world to understand what is happening.

That environment-friendly life you think your child will enjoy? It will be a life of constant fear from crime, debt, broken unhappy lives from an amoral culture ushered in by the amoral Liberal mentality in our media, Government & Colleges. It's so sad hearing people like yourself who think you have such intelligence but lack the basic wisdom & humanity to see how dead inside you have become.

Well, 1) my child will not even be introduced to this life of crime, debt, culture. Mainly, my finances will support my child's environment-friendly life, and as soon as my child is able to crawl I will teach it about the environment and how essential it is- while you teach yours about governmental oppression and silly irrelevant emotive nonsense. I do have wisdom; I don't like humans; I wish to help the environment not hurt it- so I am quite alive inside if that is what you meant; so you got 1 out of 2 right.

You seem to compare me to that of rich people who sit around talking about change, yet doing nothing to help; or a person who's so privilege that I cant even understand what real life is like.

Let me make it clear:

1) I want the environment to b better (by any means necessary)

2) I hate the human species for the simple fact of us being the reason for so much unnecessary harm to wildlife; the primary cause for the destruction of ecosystems and, ironically, themselves.

3) I don't even associate myself with political bullshit unless it impacts nature; I can care less for anybody and their baby- again, unless they have a significant impact on nature

4) I don't even really care about people's moral convictions; I am just aware (philosophically) that morality is not objective. So I wont make claims such as "killing a fetus is wrong" rather, "is killing a fetus necessary--" and, to me, it would only be necessary if it harms the environment in any way shape or form.

Your name tells much of the kind of amoral graduates coming out of our Liberal Colleges. This amoral world you just described is already showing the results of your ideology. For sake of self love, you and the self love progressives of the world will pick which segments of our population deserve to live or deserve to be executed. Why don't arrogant Liberals kill themselves rather than killing others to control population. Why is your life more important than that Baby's life? Are you glad your mother did not abort you? What arrogant dictators you are.

If you have one honest bone in your body, try looking at our culture since your Progressive ideology has been playing out in our society for the past 50 years. Lets see, rampant divorce rates, record numbers of broken families with no parents at home raising their children. Children from those broken homes joining gangs to have some semblance of family. We have welfare roles swollen from an amoral culture where people sleep around like animals, addicted to drugs, and a Liberal Government that wants to keep these welfare numbers high in order to garner their votes.

Yes we know how to stop over population and as usual, people like yourself refuse to address the CORE PROBLEM! Irresponsible self love easy sex lifestyles are the culprits. But those like yourself will say NOTHING about the immoral choices causing so many unwanted Babies. Your answer is to kill the Babies. Wow, that's what College grads learn in school? That's your culmination of 4 years of College? THAT'S SICK!

These new age self love Americans don't want to be bothered with birth control. They are the microwave mentality where the one night stand has no time to be responsible and think about birth control. Do you shame these people for their selfish choices?

No, you say there is no fault, just end the Baby's life. But when it comes to animals, it is the fault of those badddddd people who abuse these animals. Killing a late term Baby is the most barbaric brutal abuse and human could put on another.

That environment-friendly life you think your child will enjoy? It will be a life of constant fear from crime, debt, broken unhappy lives from an amoral culture ushered in by the amoral Liberal mentality in our media, Government & Colleges. It's so sad hearing people like yourself who think you have such intelligence but lack the basic wisdom & humanity to see how dead inside you have become.