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 Creation or Evolution ? (12)

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Creation or Evolution ?

The title speaks for itself......
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2 points

I believe science tells us a lot, even though incomplete, there is enough evidence of evolution....... But what was there before we evolved ?

Darkyear(345) Clarified
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Almost everything that isn't us.

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Gee....I don't know.

Hmmm.....might as well rename this debate: "Fantasy or Reality?" Since your wording amounts to asking the exact same thing.

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Evolution. It is backed up with more evidence. Though, I'm open to actual evidence for creation. Until then, (if ever; probz not)I will stay sided firmly with evolution.

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I would say both exist. I believe that God created everything, but that evolution still exists, albeit microevolution. I still have yet to find evidence for macroevolution

Cartman(18192) Disputed
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But, even less evidence for God and yet that's what you believe. Interesting.

luckin(175) Clarified
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How did you come to the conclusion that there's not that much evidence for God? Have you looked at all the arguments/evidence that were presented in the affirmative?

luckin(175) Clarified
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Here's why I don't think macroevolution could happen.

While mutations do happen, they are rare. Even if you look at the mutations that do happen, 9 times out of 10, its going to be a harmful mutation which makes neutral or beneficial mutations incredibly rare. They don't happen nearly as often as people would like or as science would require it to happen. This is why the scientists say something like "give it enough time" as a caveat to what they are saying. While they may technically be right, it is still far too much time that would permit the natural processes to turn us into the complex life forms that we are.

Also, there are genetic limits that are imposed on us as well as animals. Dog breeders have tried breeding dogs together to create some new varieties of dogs to make them a lot of money, but all they got was a dog. The same thing happened with fruit flies. They were experimented on to try and make them into something different but ultimately just became deformed fruit flies.

You also need to take into account the fact that this change is cyclical. Particularly with the environmental conditions. Mosquitos that are sprayed with something like DDT die off unless they have a gene that makes them resistant to it. That mosquito then spreads those genes to the next generation until said population of mosquitos is DDT resistant. However, this is where the cyclical part comes in. Once DDT is not longer a part of their environment, the population eventually goes back to its DDT susceptible nature.

Something else to think about. How is the fact that humans and chimps have DNA thats about 98% similar proof of common ancestry? How does homology prove that two animals came from the same ancestor? All this does is show evidence of a common designer, not a common ancestor.

Lack of fossil evidence is also an issue. Evolutionists like to point to the Cambrian explosion, but the problem is that this is way too fast, even for biology. As explained earlier, mutations are rare and beneficial mutations are even rarer. Because of this, there is no way evolution could happen that quickly.

Irreducible complexity is also a thing. How could chimps and humans have gradually evolved from a common ancestor if all the parts needed to keep them alive had to be there at the same time?

While I certainly think one of these two has a strong argument while the other has almost no argument at all, this is a false dichotomy. Creationism and evolution answer different questions.

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Have all the Democrats evolved from apes sure they have that is why they believe in that nonsense of evolution.

cownbueno(407) Disputed
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You sound like a delusional old man complaining about the new age.

"You damn kids and your science and your nonsense!"

AlofRI(3294) Clarified
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Okay. YOU were created, I evolved .... O.K?? And there are a LOT of Republicans that feel the same way as those "dastardly Democrats" (I know a few, they just like to follow the accepted line), and , by the way, nobody says we evolved "from Apes". THAT is "nonsense" used by those who ridicule the evidence that is VERY hard to question.