Crime breeds poverty or poverty breeds crime
Crime breeds poverty
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Poverty breeds crime
Side Score: 15
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Many, if not most of the world's wealthy people have, to a greater or lesser extent, acquired their riches through criminal skulduggery. Even with their amassed wealth greed drives them to continue their fraudulent activities as they strive to increase their fortunes. Misleading advertising such as Volkswagen manipulating the CO2 emission and M.P.G. figures, mis-selling by the banks with their fraudulent insurance schemes known as P.P.I. One's financial status does not make a criminal, nor does it foster veracity. Contrary to your assumption that people are not born criminals countless 1000s have been born with a predisposition to criminality, or they can develop this character flaw if they have lower than normal levels of conscience combined with heightened senses of greed, or if you like, ambition. Having been born in the back streets of Belfast into extreme poverty along with my five siblings the only criminal activity in which I engaged was to steal sufficient food for myself, two brothers and three sisters to live. I was unaware of any of my peers, all of whom were poor and a few of whom were as poor as us, engaging in criminal activities. Unlike most people today who live in a ''CROWD'' we lived in a ''COMMUNITY'' with it's values and principles which everyone felt an obligation to live up to, even as children. I left school and worked my rear-end off and by the time I was 22 I was a so called senior executive In war torn Northern Ireland with an Australian based multi-national concrete manufacturing company. I commenced my own, small, business with a full time workforce of over 130. By most standards my profits were modest but I earned some £ 2000 per day, or per working day, before tax. So, in my experience both your scenarios are, either naively or willfully misleading. Side: Crime breeds poverty
So, in my experience both your scenarios are, either naively or willfully misleading You cannot say "in my experience" to counter empirical statistics. Statistics can tell us nothing about an individual, so anecdotal evidence is not sufficient. My "scenarios" are simply a search for the, yet unknown causal relationship between crime and poverty. The correlation has already been established. That is to say that poorer populations are also populations with higher crime rates. It's great that you and your friends were law abiding poor people, I know lots of them, but it doesn't change the facts of the statistics. My two options are asking why there is a correlation. The fact of the correlation is not in dispute. Side: Crime breeds poverty
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Your academic, Don Quixote type reference to statistics is utterly meaningless. Statistics are almost always contradicted by opposing classified facts and can be cherry picked to produce whatever results their creator wishes in a cheap attempt to brace up and deceptively enhance their weak argument. Your absurdly juvenile suppositions have no place in the real world and only offer an excuse to those who have taken, what they perceive as the easy way to ''get rich quick''. The real criminals are the corrupt politicians and the top corporate executives in pin-stripped suits who evade paying their just and lawful taxes, falsifying accounts, flaunting safety regulations to increase profits, employing illegal, poorly paid labour and so forth. The truth is in the old cliche', everyone has their price. Or in other words everyone is a criminal, either existing or latent. This indisputable truth that crime breeds equally at all the social and economic levels of society makes a mockery of your arrogant and embarrassingly callow assumptions. I recommend that you withdraw your debate from this forum forthwith. Side: Poverty breeds crime
I'll make the case for this side, just because it hasn't been argued yet. If you work hard and acquire nice things, only to have them stolen from you, then you have no incentive to work hard to buy nice things. You would be better off going on the dole. You won't have much, but you wouldn't have much anyway. At least this way you aren't working hard to end up the same. Crime breeds poverty. Side: Crime breeds poverty
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I think poverty is used as an excuse for crime, but it's not the cause of it. It's people's lack of character, integrity, bad decisions and in some cases, lack of opportunity in life, that put them in a poverty state, but the decision to commit a crime is separate from ones economic status. Side: Poverty breeds crime
If the decision to commit crime is separate from ones economic status, how do you explain the correlation between poverty and crime? Why are they connected? In this country, I would have to say ignorance of opportunity is more accurate than an actual lack thereof. Side: Crime breeds poverty
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Why is it you Progressives just can't see anyone can take themselves out of any situation ? Are you claiming that one of those situations isn't starting off broke? I hope not, since that would make you a progressive. How does working out of your situation mean you never started in that situation? Side: Poverty breeds crime
When I look at crime I asked myself what does crime mean? And I determined that crime means I want more than what I already have. If we look at little children in impoverished areas who are too young to understand that they are poor they generally are not concerned with things they haven't got yet! Going along with the same idea if you are a millionaire living next door to billionaires you might be resentful of these billionaires because you don't have what they've got. When people become impoverished and they see the lifestyles of other people their desire to have what those people have is the spark, the ignition that begins focusing on how can I get what I don't have? It is easy to think that poverty isn't the issue when it comes to crime but if we were to step into those shoes maybe we would see things a little differently for example you love eating pop tarts but the family budget won't allow you to buy pop tarts today, tomorrow or days after tomorrow. You want to go swimming with the other kids at the park but you don't have the entry fee to go to the swimming pool. You want to go to the movies but the family budget doesn't have enough to allow you to go, Can Anyone See Frustration Building up from being poor? Side: Poverty breeds crime
People are more likely to break the law, when it isn't working for them. Furthermore, you can make something a crime, that wasn't a crime before, by simply writing a law. Once upon a time, in Thailand, in the last 20 years, a guy wrote a book against Thailand's monarchy. He was arrested for it. That was because the law makers wrote laws to protect the monarchies reputation. This doesn't happen in America. Furthermore, once, you are a criminal, there is no good reason to ever follow the law again. Personally, I believe that even without knowing the law, following common sense should prevent you from breaking it. Side: Poverty breeds crime
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