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Debate Score:7
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DNA tests are scientific, the word "Jew" is unscientific

A scientific DNA test can be scientific,but it can call you a jew even though the word jew is unscientific. But what is a jew? The word "Jew" does not appear in the torah, it does not refer to the Hebrews, it is a modern term which applies to those who practice the religion of judaism.  Ashkenazi Jew is a genetic group, you can scientifically determine that someone is an Ashkenazi jew, but what makes them jews? It's the beliefs and culture associated with that group (which is distinctly different from that of the Hebrews.) which means that the "jew" part is arbitrary when it comes to their genes. So even though excon is a jew, excon isn't a jew. The genes are real, but calling him a "jew" is arbitrary because he doesn't practice judaism.

excon is dumb

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excon is stupid

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Hello again, denier:

Lemme see.. A while ago you purported that I only had a MINISCULE amount of Hebrew blood.. Of course, that was a LIE.. Now, you AGREE that my DNA test said I was 97% Ashkenazi Jewish..

Yet, you continue to espouse anti-Semitic views that you LEARNED from that Nazi website you linked me to.. You remember the one, http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

They're identified as an electronic encyclopedia which contains far-right, identitarian, white nationalist, white supremacist, white separatist, antisemitic, Holocaust denial, and neo-Nazi points of view."

excon

Side: excon is dumb
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Ashkenazi Jew is a genetic group, you can scientifically determine that someone is an Ashkenazi jew

No it isn't and no you can't. Saying Ashkenazi Jew is a genetic group is like saying Sunni Muslim or Italian Catholic are genetic groups. It's literally retarded. Race and religion are two autonomous concepts, with the former being a matter of science and the latter being a matter of personal belief structure.

I have already evidenced that Ashkenazis converted to Judaism about 2.000 years ago. Since their DNA predates their conversion to Judaism then their DNA cannot be said to be Jewish.

Side: excon is stupid
excon(18260) Disputed
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Ashkenazi Jew is a genetic group, you can scientifically determine that someone is an Ashkenazi jew

Hello science DENIER..

I didn't say that... The DNA website that I linked you to said it.. You know, the people who actually DO science?? This is the one:

https://www.ancestry.com/dna/ethnicity/european-jewish

I didn't figure you'd believe it..

excon

Side: excon is dumb
excon(18260) Clarified
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Hello again,

I see you added some shit..

Ok, now.. I see you've changed your tune.. You finally ADMIT that a DNA test can, in fact, identify me as an Ashkenazi Jew..

How about this? Every time I announce I'm a Jew, I explain that I'm only GENETICALLY a Jew but not a religious one..

Would that make you happy??? Nahh, I'm doubting it would..

excon

Side: excon is dumb