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Stinking dogs. Burn! Die! NO... I know better!
Debate Score:119
Arguments:66
Total Votes:154
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DO YOU HATE MUSLIMS?

Cuz I need to know.. Burning Koran and hating us. I don't hate any of the christians or jews or even an atheist. I fast 30 days, occassionaly perform namaz, have the Koran. But I do not carry a bomb in my hand bag all the time or curse people of other religions or grow on anger. Why am I a part of the  most hated community?

Is it cuz my community has grown on stench left by burnt ashes?

Or cuz humanity has lost the value of true judgement? 

 

And do you hate me or my mother or my father only because my son is going to be cicumcised as a muslim or cuz my sister wears a naqab over her face?

Stinking dogs. Burn! Die!

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2 points

Do i hate them all no do i dislike the people in dearborn mich yes alot they hate us and the people who killed the americans they are horriable human beings....

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The view above isnt my ideas. I personally dont like a thing about the religion and what it teaches. Its evil, manipulative, cruel, and absurd. Go watch the movie Not Without MY Daughter. The middle east is fucked up. That whole religion is a breeding ground for evil.

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I don't hate Muslims, however, having read the Quran and understanding than most religious texts, I dislike the religion of Islam.

Now if you would like to argue why I am wrong, go ahead, but if you call me a racist or islamaphobe you are not better than a Soviet calling someone a Koolak cause they lack the intellect to argue.

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monkeybrain(22) Disputed
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WRONG read it in Arabic not some senseless translation (it says just the opposite and is very very similar to Christianity, Judaism,the Bahia faith ,the people who's name I forgot but know that it starts with an 'H' and lived at the time of Abraham and quite allot of other people) in fact if you go deeper like travel to India or Yemen or something and find actual (not the Al-Qaida junk who call them selves crusaders) Priests(notice i said priest) you'll find some startling beliefs about Hinduism,Buddhism and the beliefs of some Native American tribes and a tiny African tribe(whose name I can't remember) which is extremely isolated from any Abrahamic expansion influence(not converted or contacted by Christians, Muslims nor Jews)

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warrior(1854) Disputed
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Is there a point hear? I can't read arabic hell most Muslems can't even read arabic it's a dead languige but aside from that what is your argument

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7 points

I don't judge people by their race, religion or nationality its all about how they act and what they say and most of the Muslims I've met have been really nice people anyone that judges someone because of their race etc is an idiot

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4 points

But I do not carry a bomb in my hand bag all the time Ummm.... does that mean you do carry a bomb in your handbag sometimes??? Yikes! But anyway... no, I don't hate Muslims and where in the hell have you been anyway? Too busy making those handbag bombs to log onto CD every now and then? lol

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1 point

Lol... I noticed that 2012 had to leave. Too old to be new now huh? The name...

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2 points

Yeah... 2012 is gone, now I'm just Hellno. But you still look like an evil bastard with that avatar, lol.

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No reason to Muslims because they did no harm on me personally.

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3 points

I do not hate Muslims. Every religion has radical members/leaders. The only reason anyone would have said they hated Muslims is because they have been brainwashed with propaganda seen on the news or taught in school. My only problem with the Muslim religion is how they treat their women. But as a whole, I have no problems with anyone of the Islamic religion.

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monkeybrain(22) Disputed
2 points

'How they treat their women' is a stereotyping and propaganda grown idea. Don't believe everything you are told do actual field research yourself!

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Sketchy(11) Disputed
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I have done research or I would of not spoken on such a timid subject. You're on a debate forum and you're letting your emotions get in the way of facts. There are many stories if you take the time to look for you'd be shocked by what you see.

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I don't hate all of you guys. I know better.

BTW, is fasting the thing that puts the slim in Muslim? ;)

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2 points

Oh I wish... Though that is the one month that I depend upon to shed some fat out!

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2 points

Troll much?

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2 points

I don't like their views towards animals. However, if i saw a man having a heart attack, black or white, Jew or Muslim i would still go to their aid. no i don't hate Muslim people, i just don't like the teachings of the religion.

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2 points

Ok, who's the asshole who has downvoted everyone?!

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2 points

Because i'm nice, i upvote you all again :P

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2 points

never and its not a logic to hate any human being , as the cast-ism is made by us only. Don't think like it.

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2 points

I like everyone with the exception of Murderes Rapists child killers etc oh and Inland Revenue Inspectors oh and Parking Officials and Womens Libbers and Politicians and Banks and Mass Murderers, and Banks

There is no reason to hate Muslims unless they fall into one of the above categories and most don't There is reason however to dislike most religions (not God btw) because Most religions would fall into the above categories. Relgions are man made organisations full of Petty people who couldnt get a job anywhere else , full of Child molestors and Paedo's not to mention some of the richest organisations that make up the IMF

Remember this God doesnt get a penny or ask for one , It is the Pope and the Bishops who earns a huge salary and gets loads of money

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2 points

I WOULD NEVER HATE ON A WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE. I mean i'd understand hating one person from the group FOR SOMETHING THEY DID, but if ive never met u and ur classified in a group, like Muslim, i wouldnt instantly hate you. that's terrible. evrybody deserves a chance. people who are saying yes are using generalization and stereotypicalism im guessing.

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2 points

Of course not... I respect all regions, and see no reason to hate muslims. What have they done to me? Besides, God has taught us about loving everyone, even our enemies (not to say that muslims are my enemies).

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2 points

Hell No !

Why should I Hate Muslims ???

There are no reason to hate them !

I Have nothing against Muslims :) They are nice to people and animals :)

They are lovely, funny and smart !

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2 points

who ever is saying they hate muslims are proving themself and their religon wrong by hating others for not even doing anything!!!

y do u hate muslims wat did they ever do to u?

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2 points

I don't hate Muslims. We shouldn't hate anyone. As a human, we must love every human being.

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1 point

No I don't hate Musims but I dislike their beliefs, and what they about God that is false. I can give you info about what they said about Jesus in the Quran that was false.

Of course in the Quran they are commanded to kill you if you don't believe in "allah".

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AveSatanas(4433) Disputed
1 point

They say the same thing in the bible....You're supposed to kill non-believers then they get tortured in hell for eternity. Hipocrrrrittttte

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Srom(12207) Disputed
1 point

That is in the OT and the OT is for the Jewish people and it has the history of God's chose people Israel, and the prophecies of the coming Messiah. It has nothing to do with Christians because it never says in the NT that you should kill anybody.

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1 point

Don't hate Muslims, just Islam. But then again I hate all religions. Except for maybe Buddhism or Hinduism. Is humanism considered a religion? I digress....this is no different than with any other situation like this...don't judge a book by its cover, use reason to determine what kind of person someone is.

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Emperor(1348) Disputed
3 points

Why do you like Hinduism?

Don't you know how corrupted their reincarnation/caste system is?

It basically means that people born poor are considered vermin. Evil people from a past life to be treated like scum.

Even today they can't get jobs or go into education or politics because of being born poor.

If reincarnation was true, it wouldn't be a big deal, but it's not true. This means that certain families are considered scum just for being poor.

That's corrupted as hell. Hinduism is a foul religion because of this.

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feelingtruth(2772) Clarified
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Thats not really how reincarnation works at all...

People who consider the poor as vermin will be reincarnated into a shitty life because of how they treat them and other people. Poor people who are grateful for life will most likely be reincarnated into a good life in the next life. If they are poor in this life its because of a karmic action they did in a past life.

The reincarnation system has nothing to do with the caste system, the ONLY similarity between them is that if you are of high importance, then you must have been doing good in past lives, but if you start to fall as a person and abuse your wealth and powers, your next life is going to be utter shit.

I dont see where you got corruption from

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skywh(104) Clarified
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You may find their ways deemed inhumane or uncivilized but it has served them well for centuries.. A social hierarchy is some what unjust but it has helped maintain law and order.. There were little rebellions and wealth are distributed equally. The most privileged were the religious adviser followed by warriors, farmers and slaves. As times past by, the caste system were 'caste' aside (pun intended) at the grounds of human rights which are mutual no matter what lineage they come from. It seems pretty obvious enough these laws were created by religious figures... would this seem new to you? The core believe such as reincarnation remains the same, uncorrupted.

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I don't hate muslims. I hate the religion.

I hate the religion because it is a horrible, horrible faith.

The way they treat women is disgusting.

If I were to destroy only one religion, I would destroy islam - next I would destroy Jehova's Witnesses.

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monkeybrain(22) Disputed
1 point

Know the faith better each religion has factions and sects and no two are the exact same.

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I know that - I just mean muslims in general...............

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Burning Koran and hating us.

To loath a people, and to loath the ideals to which they subscribe, are two separate matters. Though I very eagerly loath the latter, it is my policy to consider the former on an individual basis.

Why am I a part of the most hated community?

I imagine that the hatred which is presently felt towards Mohametans exited long before you were conceived. Therefore the question above is one you must ask yourself. Why did you join such a loathed community?

Or cuz humanity has lost the value of true judgement?

"Of man's first disobedience and the fruit

Of that forbidden tree whose mortal taste

Brought death into the world and all our woe,

With loss of Eden, till one greater Man

Restore us and regain the blissful seat,

Sing, Heavenly Muse..."

Religion frequently promotes the myth of a Paradise Lost, in which men were ruled by virtue, reason and justice; free from the vices and delinquency into which contemporary man has fallen.

It is nonsense. Men were never ruled by "true judgement", which I take to mean "universal tolerance".

And do you hate me or my mother or my father only

I am seized by no hatred, particular of general, of Mahometans, so long as they attempt no forceful conversion of my people.

because my son is going to be cicumcised as a muslim

I do, however, deny that you have any moral right to circumcise your child without his consent, in the absence of medical necessity.

or cuz my sister wears a naqab over her face?

Well, I disparage any woman who meekly accepts the inequality in which her beliefs have placed her.

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92nida(1410) Disputed
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loath the ideals to which they subscribe

So that will end you up with hatred for everyone that disagrees with your ideals. What are your ideals comprised of? Why are they right or wrong? I'm not stressing that they are wrong. I'm simply stating nothing offers the surety.

Why did you join such a loathed community?

Answer- I cannot seize to be a part of one community because another despises it. Which community would rather promise me an unbiased ideal? Or anything like it? Even if it means atheism.

Men were never ruled by "true judgement", which I take to mean "universal tolerance".

Is that an accepted excuse to "loathe" as you say, a community for the mere reason of your understanding of "ideals"? Of your criticism against Milton?

so long as they attempt no forceful conversion of my people.

Well... I suppose I was looking for this in a stretch.

deny that you have any moral right to circumcise your child without his consent, in the absence of medical necessity.

Medical necessity is rarely denied.

I disparage any woman who meekly accepts the inequality in which her beliefs have placed her.

Well, there again is a failure of universal sabotage, semantic in nature. To comprehend inequality or rather judge it by those who accept it. Do you make your choice because your mind says so.. Or human voices. I leave it to each one's perception. And going by laws made today, inequality has proven to be for itself a word showing hypocrisy. And many places; satirical irony.

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So that will end you up with hatred for everyone that disagrees with your ideals.

That's a rather sweeping statement. If you consider it to be the nature of man to hate those with whom he disagrees, why on Earth did you ask in the first place?

What are your ideals comprised of?

Well, in a direct comparison with Islamic ideals (as dictated by the Qur'an):

1. No judicial body should have licence to pass a death sentence against a convicted felon.

2. Private citizens of any gender or race should possess the right to freedom of dress.

3. No citizen should possess the right to mutilate the body of another without the latter's consent (e.g circumcision for religious purposes).

4. No citizen should be formally inducted into a religion before the age of 15, or until they produce a written piece declaring the causes which impel them to the induction. Among such causes, the said faith being that of the family, may not be included.

5. Marriage should possess no legal status, beyond setting the order of precedence for inheritance of an estate.

6. In connection with tenet 5, adultery should not be a legal concept in any capacity.

7. A separation of religion and state is the foundation of secular justice.

8. The Islamic God possesses powers which are demonstrably impossible under scientifically observable physical constraints, and therefore cannot exist in the form by which it has been defined.

9. There should be no legal inequality between male and female citizens, beyond special provisions made in consideration of the maternal obligations.

Why are they right or wrong?

The notions of "right" and "wrong" are about as facile as the notions of "good" and "evil". I am simply resolved, where I have the power, to promote and defend the above tenets, and to rigorously oppose their repeal or obstruction, fully believing that my opponents will do the same for their own beliefs.

Answer- I cannot seize to be a part of one community because another despises it. Which community would rather promise me an unbiased ideal? Or anything like it? Even if it means atheism.

You have missed the point. My question was, at what point did you decide to join the Islamic faith, fully sensible of its detractors, but not knowing for what reasons they detracted it?

Is that an accepted excuse to "loathe" as you say, a community for the mere reason of your understanding of "ideals"?

It was not written as an excuse. You asked whether men had lost their tolerance. I stated that they never really possessed it in the perfect form after which you inquire. Ergo, your line of inquiry is moot.

Of your criticism against Milton?

Milton was the greatest poet of his age, and Paradise Lost remains one of the brightest ornaments of English literature. These matters are not affected by the erroneous nature of Milton's beliefs.

Medical necessity is rarely denied.

As I said, in the absence of medical necessity, which, by the mere evolution of a foreskin, is obviously rare, I question your right to circumcise your child.

Well, there again is a failure of universal sabotage, semantic in nature.

I cannot construe the meaning of this sentence. What is "semantic sabotage"?

To comprehend inequality or rather judge it by those who accept it.

That women are capable of acquiring their liberties by resistance to their oppressors, is historically undeniable. And I wish that the women of the Muslim world would throw off the vile and disgusting yoke which has destroyed Islamic culture, retarded societal progress and scourged their civic virtue.

Do you make your choice because your mind says so.

All of my choices are the product of data processed in my brain, which I perceive as my mind. So yes.

And going by laws made today, inequality has proven to be for itself a word showing hypocrisy.

That much is certainly true of "affirmative action" movements, but is no defense of Muslim misogyny.

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