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Daniel Hannan - what do you think?

This is a few months old but I never got around making a debate about it. I posted it on another debate but it didn't get any atention. So tell me what you think. 

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lW6Y4tBXs

Here it wouldn't post in the description.

Daniel Hannan
2 points

wow, he could have be talking to GWB.

But I do disagree with one point. Spending is the only way out of a recession, it's what got us out of the Great Depression, but it's important to spend on things that create jobs, not necessarily bailing out bad business.

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Ben Bernanke is a student of the Great Depression, and he'd tell you the same thing. The last thing you want to do to a struggling economy is cut off it's money supply. It's a akin to denying a bleeding patient a blood transfusion because he'd simply bleed it all away. The point is not to cure the patient with the transfusion but rather to keep the patient alive long enough to fix what's broken.

JakeJ(3255) Disputed
2 points

" wow, he could have be talking to GWB. "

That is partially true because Bush was doing a lot of the same things Obama is doing which isn't good. [not sure if he would still be doing it at this point]

You can't spend your way out of a recession. And WWII ended the GD.

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jessald(1915) Disputed
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The typical libertarian pitch. It makes sense on the surface and has a lot of populist appeal, but it completely blows off the mainstream economic view, which is that government investment can indeed result in a better economy.

Printing money does of course lead to inflation and lowers its value, but he ignores the fact that it also helps dampen the effects of boom-bust cycles so that when the economy crashes, the effects aren't as devastating as they would be otherwise.

Also, like all small government guys, he refuses to differentiate between spending and investment. If your 18 year old kid can't afford to go to college do you advise him to get student loans or do you tell him to forget school and go get a job a McDonalds?

Supporting Evidence: Mainstream Economics (en.wikipedia.org)
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dtrimble(32) Disputed
1 point

"Government investment"?

Government never has had, and never will have, anything that they dont take from us including money.

They are a completley non-productive entity. Every expenditure of our tax dollars are third party purchaces. They are paying for things they will not use with money they do not own.

BTW I advised my 18 year old to do exactly that! Get a job and save. One summers work gets him one years tuition.

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1 point

It was right for him to lay a hammer down on that bastard, but I still disagree with some of his views.

I am sort of Nationalist when it comes to Free Trade. I do believe that the government should encourage (not force though) businesses to keep jobs at home and for customers to buy American products, through tariffs and taxes. But, we should still allow the people to choose what they want. Jap cars are obviously better than American cars, and if it weren't for tariffs, they would be cheaper. if that happened, American Autoworkers wouldn't exist and all of our money would go to Japan. We need to do what's right for the country, so we put Tariffs on them. And, I do my own part (i drive a Dodge).

but on everything else, i highly agree. Spending is important, but Britain (as well as America) has gone way beyond the point of acceptable spending.

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He told Gordon Brown what was up and he will probably get in trouble but he made the right choice in standing up to the PM.

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