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 Daughters Rape Father in the Bible??? (12)

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Daughters Rape Father in the Bible???

The Bible Verse:

And the elder said to the younger Our father is old, and there is no man left on the earth, to come in unto us after the manner of the whole earth. Come, let us make him drunk with wine, and let us lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the elder went in and lay with her father: but he perceived not neither when his daughter lay down, nor when she rose up. And the next day the elder said to the younger: Behold I lay last night with my father, let us make him drink wine also to night, and thou shalt lie with him, that we may save seed of our father. They made their father drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in, and lay with him: and neither then did he perceive when she lay down, nor when she rose up. So the two daughters of Lot were with child by their father. [Genesis 19:31-36]

 

It doesn’t really get much more blatant than that. The two daughters had sex with their father, Lot, in order to preserve his family line. Incidentally, this all happened shortly after they had fled from Soddom and Gomorrah which was destroyed by God for its immorality – ironic?. After the events described above, Lot had no memory of it (maybe it was the liquor) and nine months later the daughters gave birth to two sons, Moab (father of the Moabites), and Ammon (father of the Ammonites).

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Yeah, I remember reading this about five years ago, interesting story. I don't know what you're trying to prove with it though, that God is objectively immoral, or there is no objective morality due to the changes in opinions over time, or what? It's never said that these actions are supported, simply that they happened, and without the bible claiming this to be morally correct, your argument falls apart.

From a historical aspect, it's worth noting that this sort of behaviour, while not encouraged, was not frowned upon as much as it is now. For example, look at the Prophet Muhammed's first wife, she was 9 when they consummated their marriage. Or some of the other rules in the Bible about rape and sex and ages and thing.

Even way back then..., people knew that sex sells ;)

So what happens next in the story? What's the moral of the story? Do they all live happily ever after?. Or did you lose your place while cleaning up the mess with some tissues ;)

Ummmm yeah. The bible is actually not condoning it, its condemning it. The point of the story is that its gross and immoral, not that its good.

Dremorius(861) Disputed
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Where does it say anything about condemnation?

The Phantom(453) Disputed
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Where does it say that its condoning it? .

The Phantom(453) Disputed
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The fact that God is telling us this is condemning it. Just like if i said "Someone just murdered a child and got away with it!"

And then you say, "Oh, you just said someone killed a child! So you accept child murder?"

"No! I'm saying its bad!"

"Where did you say its bad?"

I didn't say it was bad. I just assumed that you would know i was telling you a story that was supposed to be taken as bad.

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Well, when the fled from Soddom and Gomorrah it wasn't because of the fact that the daughters were active with their father, it was because the men there were thinking in a slightly homosexual way, and that, from what I have gathered, really winds God up. It says in Corinthians that you are not even supposed to associate with people who are 'sexually immoral'. So, yes, maybe God was being a little bit of a hypocrite there, for his all-knowing, all-seeing nature surely would have meant that he had foreseen it.

I therefore conclude that God just doesn't like gay people. It says in Leviticus and in Corinthians that gay people will go to hell.

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I agree. It says in the bible that homosexuals committed an abomination and shall surely be put to death too... in his teachings, he said thou shall not commit adultery, incest, bestiality, homosexuality etc, so why did he let the adulterous woman from before and the daughters that raped their father thus committing incest go unpunished yet killed the homosexuals and even destroyed the city they lived in?

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