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Debate Score:53
Arguments:35
Total Votes:64
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Death Penalty for Terrorists: Giving Them What They Want?

Is giving Islamic terrorists the death penalty just giving them what they want... Martyrdom?

Would it be better to just keep them in prison until they die?

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Yes

Side Score: 29
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No

Side Score: 24

Would it be better to just keep them in prison until they die?

Yes it would be great if it was that way so they don't get what they want quickly. They need to suffer.

Side: yes
2 points

I say, put them into prisons run by Sheriff Joe from Arizona. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio

Side: yes
2 points

There's a good idea.... I love Sheriff Arpaio, we need more like him!

Side: yes
2 points

They need to be in Prison for their entire life, and each day have a naked woman march in front of them and they will be fed PORK CHOPS each day !

Side: yes
2 points

Maybe we should let them have sex but only if they wrap their tiny penises with bacon first?

Side: yes
2 points

I would have loved to give you a point on that statement but it appears I have given too many too fast , what a pile of CRAP that is...... so here you go Hellbro point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT point POINT

Side: yes
2 points

Yes, death penalty for terrorist is just as much what they are doing - suicide bombing!

Side: yes

Is giving Islamic terrorists the death penalty just giving them what they want... Martyrdom?

Yes, a good example of that would be 9/11

Side: yes
Spoonerism(831) Disputed
1 point

Yeah! We sure gave those terrorists what they wanted that day!

Side: No
Hellno(17753) Disputed
2 points

I believe that what he is saying is that the 19 sick fuckers who hijacked the planes became martyrs and the did.

Side: yes

i would say we should kill them but slowly, like stone them to death like they do in their culture. I know people in America arent as ravenous as some people are in the other parts of the world but i would say we should give em a taste of their own medicine.

Side: yes
1 point

It may be what they want but it is irrelevant as long as they aren't around to kill more innocent people.

Side: yes
1 point

There is no worse punishment then living with the consequences of the crimes that you have committed, and giving a terrorist the death penalty is only giving him what he wanted in the first place. They should have to live with themselves for the remainder of their lives, besides there is no honor in suicide- that's just cowardice.

Side: Yes
2 points

I'm torn on this one... I don't want to see them become martyrs but I don't want to keep them around either... maybe we could just beat them to death with the sole of a dirty shoe or smother them with bacon!

Side: No
3 points

That would work! I would have upped you on that one but I guess I've given too many already.

Side: No
1 point

Yeah, I can't up vote you any more either... I don't mind that rule so we can't just up vote every single post of a friend or something but we need to be allowed more than what we get... like 4 times as many in my opinion...

Side: No

Hey Hellno, i know you'll probably just ignore this, and in no way is this meant to be an attack on you (or the american people) who i have no dislike for whatsoever, i want to make that perfectly clear before you start labelling me again, i have a deep admiration for americans, especially with regard to there workman like spirit (you got that from us you know) and unbeleivable honesty.

Now, to the main part of my argument, you say give them the death penalty, i disagree but i wont get into the details why, i wont accuse the US government of being a terrorist state as i know you wont entertain that despite its logical basis.

What i want to show you is a CIA backed terrorist who is currently being given exile in the US (because he was a US paid terrorist), his name is Lois Pasada.He is responsible for bombing a cuban airliner in 1976 which resulted in the deaths of 73 people (there is alot of info. to suggest that this was done at the behest of the cia but it isnt conclusive and linked has never been proved).He conducted numerous other cia backed terrorist activites while working for the CIA (your brave boys dont liken to get their hands dirty cause they like to be able to keep up the pretence that they are against terrorism). Read up on this man, read up on how he has been pardoned by the US courts despite most of the haus allegations against him being proven and fact that he is desparately wanted by both tha Venezuelan and Panamanian authorities. Things may not seem so black and white when you do, please open your mind to this, its not propaganda, its fact. If this man had done this to the US he would be considered Bin Laden 2, and you know it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Posada_Carriles

Side: No

Ultimate sarcasm. .

Side: No
Hellno(17753) Disputed
1 point

Thanks for stopping by .

Side: yes
Freed0m(95) Disputed
1 point

I did not see any proof that the CIA actually backed him in his terrorist endeavors, only that he was trained in America at a military base that uses CIA teachings in counter terrorism. We did not clear him of his criminal record, we just refused to send him to a country where it was believed he would be tortured, your source doesn't contain what happened at his rather recent trial.

And please don't compare a man who allegedly killed close to one hundred people to a man who killed thousands of Americans and did not do so believing he was fighting for freedom (as Posada was).

Side: yes
2 points

When they say it is for the religion. Do you believe it?

If they say it is for good. Do you believe it?

If they say they are sent by God. Would you believe that?

Then how can you believe that they can be martyrs?

They slayed people. They only need a reason to disguise their crimes. Hence they describe it for The Lord. That is wrong. They can never be martyrs. They were never good no matter what they call it!

Side: No
2 points

I'm sure most of them would probably chose going home to their women and children than being killed. I'd guess it is a brotherhood thing that they'd spout martyrdom when they know there is no other path for them.

The sort of terrorists that would be arrested would not be Joe Soap, run of the mill Al Queda lackeys, the sort that blow themselves to chunks on buses in service to God. It would be far more intelligent skilled military men in positions of some power at least. These are not the men that they portray and are more than likely not gong to want to be killed, as they have something to lose and don't believe half the shit they tell the others.

It is only when they can no longer hide their faces and crimes that they will start to play the last hand they have left, a remember me to their people, so at least they will be considered heroes.

Side: No
2 points

What terrorists really want is 72 virgins, along with the advancement of Islam particularly the establishment of a worldwide caliphate, the reason they hate the US so much is because we have the power and they do not. So in short no because martyrdom is not their ultimate goal.

Side: No