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Defund the police I'm not stupid
Debate Score:16
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Defund the police or I'm not stupid?

Cuts in policing have 'led to 710 murders and more than 2,800 gunshot victims' across the US


Defund the police

Side Score: 9
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I'm not stupid

Side Score: 7
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Defund the police or I'm not stupid?

Hello Dr:

I'm not sure those dots are connected. One could say that lock downs cause a rise in crime. One could also say that a worldwide pandemic caused a rise in crime. Finally, one could say that the slogan "defund the police", DIDN'T mean to actually RID ourselves of cops. It meant to RID ourselves of MURDERING cops.. You don't support MURDERERS on the police force, do you?? It's just a very bad slogan. Clearly, I'm a lib. If I'm being mugged, I'm NOT gonna call ANTIFA.

We used to put crazy people in hospitals, whether they wanted to be hospitalized or not. Then we stopped doing that and dumped them on the streets for the cops to deal with. As we know, cops aren't very good at dealing with crazy people... Cops aren't very good at dealing with addicts. Cops aren't very good at dealing with homeless people.. Cops aren't very good at dealing angry married couples..

Therefore, in my view, "defund the police" means to REMOVE all the crap that cops DO, that have NOTHING to do with policing, and return the cops to REAL policing..

Having said that, if you BELIEVE that libs want NO cops at all, we really don't have anything to discuss..

excon

PS> Didja see that?? I disagreed with you on every point you made.. And, I was able to do all that without ONCE calling you a liar. Funny how that goes..

Side: Defund the police

Great post excon, excellent point about police being terrible at dealing with people suffering from a mental health crisis. There is a a hardcore all white neighborhood nearby that used to think the police we the good guys.

Tragically, this changed when a handcuffed by police white person with a mental health crisis was shot to death by several police officers.

Side: Defund the police
KillerQueen(7) Disputed
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one could say that the slogan "defund the police", DIDN'T mean to actually RID ourselves of cops

It clearly did mean that.

City of Morris disbanding police department

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/minnesota/news/city-of-morris-disbanding-police-department/

Some major cities across the U.S. are also taking the lead on what a reimagined police force could look like. Minneapolis, the city where Floyd died in police custody, is taking the rare step of disbanding its police force.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2020-06-09/what-does-it-mean-to-defund-the-police-or-disband-the-police

If I'm being mugged, I'm NOT gonna call ANTIFA.

Best stop supporting Democrats then unless you want someone wielding a Communist flag to show up when you call.

Side: I'm not stupid

Yes, we should defund the police. I am sick of seeing police officers shoot adorable friendly pet dogs.

Defund the police.
Side: Defund the police
KillerQueen(7) Disputed
1 point

Yes, we should defund the police.

You want guns banned and no cops. You must be a super special level of stupid.

Side: I'm not stupid
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People get shot by their own guns.

"An Iowa dog owner was hospitalized after being unexpectedly shot by his pet while playing together"

We don't need so many guns.

Supporting Evidence: Dog shoots man. (www.theguardian.com)
Side: Defund the police

Yeah, this kind of thing would have a certain outcome.

Though I think it's somewhat poor to take in the stats as they crop up across the country, and just pull the ones from those areas that have actively begun a process like this. Because we already know of a few cities that have taken part in this exact same message, and are now dealing with sizable increases in violent crime.

Side: I'm not stupid
1 point

Read excon's excellent rebuke of these points.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/

The original poster used daily mail a questionable source.

Side: Defund the police
1 point

The loony lefties and progressives would have you believe that these murders and general rise in violent crime since the reduction in police numbers have been committed by covid-19.

All investigations of the prime suspect however have failed to establish either motive or opportunity.

Bill de Blasio is the epitome of the classic bull-shitter whose left-wing policing policy has returned New York to the crime infested hole it was in the 1970s and prior to Giuliani sanitising the shit created by the lefties.

Shithead politicians pursuing their madcap left-wing political ideology is sort of understandable but the real dummies are the fools who vote the destroyers of cities into power.

IF YOU HATE YOUR CITY, YOUSELF, YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS;- VOTE DEMOCRAT.

Side: I'm not stupid
1 point

The stress of the pandemic. People losing their jobs and businesses. Children missing school.

Side: Defund the police
1 point

For just two instances look at what's happening to San Francisco, Los Angles.

The lefties have either turned these once beautiful, and thriving cities into shitholes for vagrants, druggies and criminals or are in the process of doing so.

Americans sit idly by as the progressives turn their nation into one big Third World, lawless tip-head.

MAN, MAN OH MAN.

Side: I'm not stupid
1 point

I wouldn't know the details of San Francisco. Yet, to ignore the influence of federal government and big corporations and blame it all on the city seems unfair. For example, Ronald Reagan helping bringing cocaine into the country.

Monopolies and oligopolies having a controlling influence on both buying and selling. Mass incarceration, for profit prisons, and prison labor driving down wages.

Side: Defund the police

Defund the police and stupid go hand in hand- you can't separate the two. This has to be one of the dumbest things the dems have ever done among all the other dumb stuff they do.

Side: I'm not stupid
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Defund the police and stupid go hand in hand- you can't separate the two.

Hello High:

I agree with you. The idea of de-funding the police is stupid.. But, of course, that isn't really what they mean..

As I said a year ago on this thread, what they mean is, when 911 gets a call for a welfare check, they SHOULDN'T send armed cops. When they get a potential suicide call, they SHOULDN'T send armed cops. When 911 gets a crazy neighbor call, they SHOULDN'T send armed cops. When 911 gets a call about a car parked illegally, they SHOULDN'T send armed cops. When 911 gets a call about a loud party, they SHOULDN'T send armed cops. When they get a drunk person call, they SHOULDN'T send armed cops.. When 911 gets a homeless person call, they SHOULDN'T send armed cops. When 911 gets a call about a phony $20 bill, they SHOULDN'T send armed cops..

Is any of this making sense???? No, huh?

excon

Side: I'm not stupid