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Detroit , Michigan is a wasteland
U.S. Census Bureau based on variables including crime rates, employment growth, access to restaurants and attractions, educational attainment and housing affordability, 24/7 Wall St. identified America’s 50 worst cities to live.
Perhaps it's not a surprise, but Flint and Detroit make the top 10. Income is crucial to quality of life, the study says, because of its impact on job security, housing, education, crime and safety.
What has Democratic rule really done for the cities of Flint and Detroit. Anyone really know.
Yup. Because of liberal policies, unions and miscellaneous and sundry misguided liberal objectives, jobs were off-shored to more competitive countries. Unions drove the cost of labor up to the point they were no longer competitive. That's why companies manufacture overseas where wages are lower and, therefore, better for the bottom line and consumers.
You can, because that simply isn't the predominant cause of Detroit's problems. Globalization's take-down of the American industrial sector is the primary cause of Detroit's state, with wide-spread government corruption being the second and some misplaced policies trailing behind at number 3 (at the most).
Again, why does everything always have to be so partisan with you?
I'm calling it like it is. Liberal policies- bigger government, higher taxes, unions all caused Detroit's problems. Remember NAFTA was passed under Clinton's leadership.
NAFTA's free-trade ideals aren't liberal. They are, in fact, American Conservative ideals, and more Republicans voted for it than Democratics.
Can't you see that your partisanship is blinding you to the actual facts of the situations you comment on? I mean seriously, you just tried to claim that NAFTA was left-wing.
And Obama had nothing to do with the delcine we have undergone--but will bounce back from! In fact, he with his TARP Bailouts actually SAVED some of our auto manufacturers from going bankrupts.
The American Automobile market began its decline from power long before Obama took office. The initial seeds were first sowed in the 70s. You need to read more on this before you spout your ignorance.
I've been to Detroit a whopping one time and it was an interesting and sad city. To blame it on Obama? Come on that's ridiculous, talk about grasping at straws. I truly hope Detroit is making a comeback. I know corrupt politicians (NOT Obama) where a huge reason for its decline.
Dude. Rotflmao. I was being sarcastic about his obviously stupid and ignorant comment blaming Obama for what was really the result of decades of structural economic change and free trade.
Detroit didn't become a wasteland until we had a Republican President that ignored Wall Street regulation and nearly destroyed the auto industry. After that Detroit was unlucky enough to get stuck with a Republican Governor who "taxed" the people with a water price that drove them from their homes, then did even worse to Flint! Hopefully, the Dems. can rebuild what's left!
Detroit’s last GOP mayor was Louis C. Miriani, a son of Italian immigrants, who served from 1957 to 1962. By the time he left office, the Republican brand was ebbing in Detroit, one of the country’s most Democratic-dominated cities.
54 years of Democratic rule and you say your city rocks.
And for all of you who are a little slow on the uptake, like Hellno/Outlaw/Cooper....and need some education on the Great Detroit, which I doubt ANY of you have ever been....here is some more info on why We. Are. The. BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh yeah....my beloved Detroit Red Wings are probably the finest sports franchise in the nation. Along with the Lions, of course.
Detroit’s last GOP mayor was Louis C. Miriani, a son of Italian immigrants, who served from 1957 to 1962. By the time he left office, the Republican brand was ebbing in Detroit, one of the country’s most Democratic-dominated cities.
54 years of Democratic rule and you say your city rocks.
Where the Bongo goes, deadly crime, poverty drug dealing follows shortly afterwards. They came up from the southern states and infested many of the once great and prosperous cities such as Detroit and Chicago, then turned them into third world, crime ridden hell holes. The Bongo wallows in filth, poverty and crime. There's no point in trying to describe these sub-classes in euphemistic terms as by doing so only clouds the truth about the true psyche' of the Bongo. They lack the personal discipline necessary to engage in formal education. They do not have the executive skills required to form effective local government nor establish legitimate successful businesses which could provide their communities with the revenue to finance public services. ''I have a dream'', I have a dream that someday the blacks will all return to their beloved Africa and let America prosper once more. It's a nice dream, but unfortunately it's only a forlorn dream.
Detroit is not a wasteland. Just take a hike after dark on Eight Mile Rd and you will see all of the colorful nightlife inhabitants. It may be a jungle or a war zone or both, but it's not a wasteland.
Remember, 8 Mile Rd is only the northern boundary of the city, and I'm sure you will want to tour much deeper in the crannies of all the wonderful neighborhoods and shopping areas.....but if you survive the stroll after dark on 8 mile, tour the interior of the jungle in the day time, morning is best when the nightlife is recovering so the city will be a bit calmer.
But I would prefer taking a visitor to the RenCen area to show him some of my city's better points. And you and I are probably the only ones here who know anything about Motown, Mr. Saint. These guys only know about 8 Mile from the eponymous movie with Marshall Mathers. (otherwise known as Eminem.)
For non-commercial areas, as far as neighborhoods, I would show people maybe Bloomfield Hills in the North, or....MY 'hood: Gross Pointe, which is out East. And of course, out to the West we have the illustrious Ann Arbor, which is home to my alma mater, UM.
Downtown, I would show them the Riverfront area. And then take in a nice ballgame at Comerica and see the Tigers. (The Motor City Kitties!)
And yeah, I miss ol' Tiger Stadium, and saw my first big league game there when I was 9 years old. I remember Cecil Field jacked two homers and we clobbered the Yankees.
I miss old Cobo Arena though, where as a kid I lost many brain cells watching rock concerts and smoking dope. The Pistons don't play there any longer, but my Wings still take the ice at the renovated Cobo Hall Complex.
After a busy day of seeing the sights, a nice drink at the revolving bar atop the Westin Hotel in the RenCen. (made semi-famous for the scene where George Clooney and Jennifer Lopez met for a drink in the movie "Out of Sight.")
Ahh.....I love me some Detroit. No place like it on Earth.
Thanks to the debate author for reminding me how awesome it is!!
I understand you are a Detroit booster and proud of your city. I can see your point of view on it, I'm aware of many good projects and nice places to live in the city. You can have it all. Only a miracle or something forced on me by this evil world beyond my control can ever get me to set foot on the ground anywhere in Detroit ever again.
Bloomfield Hills is Oakland County, several miles north and of Eight Mile Road. I did a lot of business there also.
Ann Arbor is not Detroit, it's the hash bash college town. Grosse Point is not Detroit. Saint Clare Shores is not Detroit. Just because Detroit is like organized crime controlling much or all of the water supply in surrounding communities does not make those communities part of Detroit. Even East Pointe, formerly East Detroit, didn't want anything to do with the name Detroit when they changed to East Pointe and their problem is they are stuck much too close to Detroit so the name change doesn't help much.
I went to a lot of pro games, concerts, all the glamour places, Ren Cen though it's been so long I don't remember that place.........the only way you can enjoy Detroit is if you are in those fortified places. When's the last time you were on Belle Isle? What a zoo that place is, always seems like something in the air there so everybody is expecting to be attacked or robbed at any moment. Must have been 2005 when I went to Belle Isle.....can't remember the names of what I think was another waterfront park or two, but always the same, always seems like everybody is on edge and afraid that anybody they see might be an attacker.
I was robbed three times, once at gunpoint and beat up twice in those robberies. Got jumped by a little gang once and they intended to cripple me if not kill me but God put war in my bones and they remember me well as I walked away. I appreciate and support the police as long as they are not being abusive, but there is little they can do to help in the city when a guy is in trouble. A dear friend almost lost a son to some of those punks, a son who did nothing but reside peacefully in the city......many other stories I could tell. You can have Detroit. If I never set foot in that city again, I won't miss any of it.
As for the Tigers........I mowed lawns at some of their houses, Al Kaline was always friendly and would come out and talk with us.....and it was in Bloomfield Hills if I remember correctly, around 14 and maple....and that is a whole different world than Detroit. Chet Lemmon, I forget the names, there were a few of them who played with Chet......those guys had the brains to not reside in Detroit. I"m not much of a sports fan anymore, used to know all the tiger names around and after Kaline's time........but I really have to hand it to Al Kaline, what a nice guy he is, the same in his back yard as he was on the air, he'd come out and talk with us like he was one of us...never saw any of the other Tigers at their homes.
It's all way to crowded in southern michigan. The suburbs are not too bad, but it's way to crowded.......you can have it all.
I also grew up a few houses down the street from one of the biggest Tiger names ever, knew his family well, he was the oldest and always gone playing baseball so I didn't see much of him. Yeah, I have some fond memories and actually had some great times in Detroit and was around a many years after those robberies and gang jump......but I won't miss it if I never set foot in Wayne County ever again. It's all 8 Mile Road to me, and not what was glamorized by Eminem but the real 8 mile you would walk on any time of day hoping you don't get accosted, all a jungle.
I spent a lot of time in Detroit, did a lot of business as a realtor there, owned some rental properties and flipped many, I was in gated communities and some of the best houses near the waterfront and in pretty much every subdivision in the city, some of them having whole blocks of burned out houses and buildings with one last house standing occupied and there are many neighborhoods like that, some in the process of being completely knocked down and bulldozed to get rid of the dope/prostitution hide outs ......and went there many times for other things, concerts, sports games, Cobo Hall, Joe Lewis Arena, Tiger Stadium (old and new) I hope I never have to go back there for any reason. Detroit, Flint, Pontiac.........the dumps of Southern Michigan. It amazes me that anybody wants to stay in those places, I guess they just don't realize how much open and very affordable space we have in this country.
Detroit won't be turning around any time soon. I don't even want to see it outside my window when I'm driving through there.....eyes focused on the road and get past that dump as fast as I can....and be careful to watch the exit signs on 75 or you'll suddenly find yourself near the downtown area going the wrong way on a one way street and hoping you don't hit a dead end full of gangsta punks.