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 Did God or Evolution create humans? (51)

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Did God or Evolution create humans?

Humans are on the planet, but why? Is it that God created the world or are we here due to the Darwin Theory (Evolution)?

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3 points

There is no complete way to find out if God made us or if we all evolved from big hairy apes.

Side: Unable to prove currently
Bohemian(3861) Disputed
2 points

Geology shows that fossils are of different ages. Paleontology shows

a fossil sequence, the list of species representing changes through

time. Taxonomy shows biological relationships among species. Evolution

is the explanation that threads it all together. Creationism is the

practice of squeeezing one's eyes shut and wailing 'does not!

Side: Evolution by Natural Selection
2 points

Did God or Evolution create humans?

The Spaghetti Monster did. DUH.

Side: The Spaghetti Monster
2 points

The Spaghetti Monster did???? Mmmmmmm! Spaghetti! Yummy!!!

Side: The Spaghetti Monster
1 point

Well you bring up an interesting ideas, things which are complicated and could have many an explanation.

How were humans created?

It is different according to your viewpoint. Scientific proof shows that Humans came from early life-forms. So that would be evolution. Some people think that is indisputable proof that there is no god. I think it doesn't prove anything in that field. After all how do you know that a god of some sort didn't guide our evolutionary path? You can't, simple as that.

On another note if humans were created by god, as in just poof without prior beings, what would that suggest? I think it would suggest that humans are a tool being used for some purpose, why else would you create something? (Entertainment is a purpose).

Why are we on this planet?

Old-World creationists, Panspermiaists, and Atheists agree that the world was around for a very long time. They seperate as too why we are here on this planet, Non-Panspermia Atheists think that we are only here due to chance. Which is a very rare thing to occur, so we are lucky to even exist. Old-World creationists think that God made this world just so that humans would eventually come about due to the attributes god gave to the world. In short we are here because we of the conditions of the earth eventually rising about to humanity.

As for New-World creationists and Panspermiaists, life-forms were placed here by a higher power, which were either humans or one day would become humans. In short we were put here with intent of us to be here.

Which is true is currently impossible to prove, so it differs on your viewpoint on what is correct.

Side: Unable to prove currently
aveskde(1935) Disputed
1 point

Some people think that is indisputable proof that there is no god. I think it doesn't prove anything in that field. After all how do you know that a god of some sort didn't guide our evolutionary path? You can't, simple as that.

They claim it is proof that god is not necessary to explain life.

Why give an unverifiable claim equal footing as science? We can't prove that reality isn't a dream, should that have equal standing too?

Which is true is currently impossible to prove, so it differs on your viewpoint on what is correct.

The evidence says that we live on an ancient Earth, and naturally formed upon. There really is no dispute, just denialism.

Side: Evolution by Natural Selection
1 point

Why give an unverifiable claim equal footing as science? We can't prove that reality isn't a dream, should that have equal standing too?

1.) To avoid getting into an internet argument with the more zealous on this site, it just ends in disaster with no change in belief. If you are light on the person they can cooperate and put up less resistance to something that they don't agree with. Eventually leading into someones change in beliefs.

2.)Yes, yes we should. However we should focus on things that will lead to a better life rather than indefinites, dream or not a dream doesn't matter and hasn't influenced our lives tremendousness. Just like the origin of the human species, it is great knowledge to have, but doesn't influence regular life all that much.

The evidence says that we live on an ancient Earth, and naturally formed upon. There really is no dispute, just denialism.

Anywhere there is argument (well founded or not) there is dispute. Denialism is reserved for those who don't want the implications of the truth in their reality.

Side: Pat aveskde on back
clearEn(207) Disputed
1 point

Why give an unverifiable claim equal footing as science?

But it is being given equal footing. Evolution--fish to philosophers--is unverifiable. Even if it did happen, it won't happen the same way again, right? The only way to know it did happen is to go back in time and observe things. As this is impossible, the only other option would be to wait a few million years with great records and see if it's still happening.

As we haven't done that, either, we haven't proved anything. We've proved Natural Selection, we've proved that mutations can sometimes be beneficial, and we've proved that mutations have the ability to make some changes to animals. But we haven't observed any particles-to-people evolution, and we cannot do so. Thus, evolution is an unverifiable claim (albeit one agreed upon my most scientists). But evolution is given "equal footing as science".

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Science consists of observing, predicting, testing, observing, refining, predicting, testing, etc. That's how we got our current planetary motion equations, our taxonomy of life, our chemical information, and all that. But this cannot be applied to full-scale evolution. But, for the sake of argument, let's try:

observe--We see bones. They appear to come from animals no longer living today. It seems that there are transitional forms from some to others.

predict--We predict that further digging will produce more transitional fossils. We predict that life has evolved over vast amounts of time.

test--.......Oh....... yeah. Um..... Hmmmm. [tap finger on chin]. Anyway.....

observe-- et cetera.

Evolution is a historical science, based off of things we cannot replicate in lab scenarios. Sure, we can show that there might have been naturally-occurring organic stuff a few billion years ago, and that might have come together into something that possibly self-replicates, but we can't actually test that.

Side: God
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
-1 points

Let's take the example of a car moving down a road without any other cars on that road. Is the car moving forward or is the car staying stationary and the road moving under it?

Let's take another example, if the tree falls in a woods with no one around does make a sound?

God or evolution, did we evolve?

Side: God
1 point

It's actually really easy to answer the question. Just look at the Evidence.

Side: Evolution by Natural Selection
JayAr(182) Disputed
1 point

While that is great evidence, I might want to have some fun with a couple points.

1.) How do you know that is not a test of faith?

That is a horrible question that requires the existence of god to be verified before it could be answered.

2.) What if every primate species was infected with the exact same type of virus at separate times with no line of descent at all?

Extremely unlikely... this isn't a good question either, yet I heard it used before.

3.) What if the study is faked?

Peer review.... what else can I say?

Side: Pat aveskde on back
clearEn(207) Disputed
1 point

Peer review.... what else can I say?

Richard Sternberg helped publish a peer-reviewed scientific paper that advocated Intelligent Design. As he really did go through the steps, and the peers really did review it, you can come up with two results:

1) Peer review isn't worth anything and is just a stupid formality

2) There really is evidence against evolution, and it just isn't published because bad things happen to those who publish contrary evidence.

Either way, evolution looses. They cite 'peer reviewed' as being sent from the gods of science, but if a paper passes that carries the supposedly non-existent evidence for God, then what? Either the system is broken, or the evidence was real.

Side: God

God created humans through the process we call evolution. ;)

Side: Evolution by Natural Selection
1 point

Chuck Norris created humans SO that they could annoy him SO that he could kill them......

Side: Evolution by Natural Selection