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 Did the Christians steal a story? (26)

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Did the Christians steal a story?

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Why do atheists always bring up the similarities between Jesus and the Sun God of Egypt, they are just similarities it doesn't dis-qualify either one.

Saurbaby(5581) Disputed
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Similarities? It's basically the whole story that's the same....

And it just proves that nothing is unique about the story.

And I'd prefer if you didn't just assume that I'm an atheist, because I'm not

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Most religions aren't unique, they all share similarities. I'm not assuming your an atheist, I'm just assuming this will end up going the route this argument usually goes.

TudorRose(117) Clarified
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Okay I shall enlighten you with another comparison that doesn't involve an Ancient Egyptian God. The Persian God Mithra was born 600 years before Christ on the 25th December, he performed miracles and was resurrected on the third day. He was known as the Lamb, the way the truth the life, the Saviour and the Messiah.

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I discovered this piece of information whilst watching Bill Maher's aptly named documtary "Religiolous". Horus raised "Asar" from the dead which translates as "Lazarus", he walked on water and healed the infirm- COPY CAT RELIGION.

This is one of the many stories that were woven into Christian doctrine. Take most of their holidays, for instance, you've got the winter solstice, the spring equinox, and hallows eve, all of which are old Pagan traditions.

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Where's your God now?!

lol

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Wasn't this "Christianity was plagiarized from pagan religions" debunked a while ago? I don't really know the complete details, but I believe it's pretty thoroughly explained in Strobel's The Case for the Real Jesus how it simply is not true. I'm definitely looking into buying that book, I think it would be a great resource for anyone else who is interested in this topic!

Saurbaby(5581) Disputed
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Um... This is talking about Egyptians, not pagans.

Troy8(2433) Disputed
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Um... A pagan is an adherent of a polytheistic religion. Race has nothing to do with it.

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Christanity just keeps getting weider and weider............

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Christians didn't steal or story. It says in 2 Peter 1:16 16 For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

That verse says they didn't follow or invent those stories about Jesus but they told you about Jesus because they were eyewitnesses who saw Jesus and it got recorded in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John

Emperor(1348) Disputed
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Yahweh was once one of many gods in a pantheon, much like Zues, Hermes and Neptune or Odin, Thor, Freya and other gods.

Yahweh was the god of war of an ancient religion. The Jews wanted to escape from Egypt, so they prayed to that god and they were successful.

Perhaps that god is real, or perhaps they were lucky, so it simply left a long tradition of "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." There were many gods at that time that were considered equal to Yahweh or greater than Yahweh, which the Jews chose.

Yahweh is a made up god of a religion you don't know about or believe in, this would heavily indicate.

Now, this basically means that the Bible is wrong and that you are wrong.

It is fine to deny this, but this is how it happened. This also means that Jesus is not a god either, so that christianity as a whole is completely wrong, and besides the mediocre moral lessons, is a failed religion that is simply wrong.

I don't expect you to believe me because you are very close minded, but it would be wise to read that book. A copy is only about $5, so it won't cost you much. If you care about truth, and want to know what is true, then you should certainly invest in a copy.

However, I doubt you will. You do not care about truth because you are close minded and already think that you are right no matter what.

Prove me wrong.

Supporting Evidence: History of God (www.amazon.com)
Emperor(1348) Clarified
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Seriously, please prove me wrong. Nothing would make me happier than to know that you are actively searching for the truth.

Questioning what you believe in is not wrong. If what you believe is true, then you will find the answer you are looking for.

If the evidence contradicts what you had believed before, then you have learned something new and grown as a person.

Bob--(35) Disputed
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. So your say christanity is a fake religion.

Srom(12206) Disputed
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No If you read I pointed out a verse that says that they didn't invent those stories like some people say they did but they told you about Jesus because they were eyewitnesses.

Dremorius(861) Clarified
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Then how come Horus is almost exact in comparison to Jesus, even though he was many centuries before Jesus. How do you explain that to me? Why don't you just dead set answer me Srom? Horus was born on the same date on similar circumstances, leading on to death and resurrection, but way before Jesus.

Explaayyyyynnn!

Just an FYI, Christians on the modern calendar have chose to celebrate Christimas on December 25. It was originally chosen to coincide with Pagan holidays that were being celebrated at that time. December 25 isn't the actual birthday of Christ. Most theological and historical experts actually believe that the historical Christ was born in the summer time.