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You bet cha! No way!
Debate Score:14
Arguments:12
Total Votes:14
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Did the state prove their case against george zimmerman

Did the state of florida prove their case against george zimmerman?       

You bet cha!

Side Score: 4
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No way!

Side Score: 10
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It was a complete total knockout! The defense was torn apart piece by piece, argument by argument.

De la Rionda demolish's the defense
Side: You bet cha!

1. Is it a provocation to ask someone where they live?

2. Is it reasonable to assume that Zimmerman could have extradited himself from underneath Trayvon?

;)

Side: You bet cha!
Qymosabi(203) Disputed
1 point

Is it reasonable that you stop yelling for help if you didn't think you actually shot the person that you feared was getting ready to do you great bodily harm? why did the yelling stop?

Is it reasonable that a perfect 90 degree angle shot to be underneath the button on a shirt that is hanging above you at a 45 degree angle?

Is it reasonable to get out of your car and chase someone if you're afraid of them reaching in their waistband?

Is it reasonable to call the cop on someone for standing in the rain?

Is it reasonable to have georges blood on the bottom of the front of trayvon martins "inner" clothing?

Is it reasonable to have no blood splatter on the back of your head if its been bashed 25 time against concrete?

Side: No way!

When the state brings offers new charges, it is a sign of defeat.

Side: No way!
Qymosabi(203) Disputed
1 point

Not necessarily so. 90% of capitol criminal trials end up including lessor charges in the jury instructions.

Side: You bet cha!
1 point

Basically, the state can't prove that he killed Martin under second degree murder, so the charge was reduce to manslaughter to suggest that the death of Martin's was not entirely in the hands of Zimmerman.

Side: No way!
1 point

No .

Side: No way!
1 point

While I think they should have had a jury of 12, that was the states choice. The fact that they failed to convince even one of the six people demonstrates that they did not prove their case against George Zimmerman.

Side: No way!
1 point

I believe the state had all they needed for a Murder 2 Charge. Zimmerman wasnt charged With Murder 1, which was Premeditated Murder. So, the courts didnt accuse him of setting out to kill that kid, but they did think that when Zimmerman pulled that trigger in Trayvon's Chest that he had reason to believe it would kill Trayvon. So, we have a dead kid, And a Man who said he shot the kid in Self Defense. I really see how one can claim self defense against one they pursued themselves. G Zimmerman's life was in NO danger before he pursued that kid, making it a very avoidable situation. But I feel what was REALLY on Trial was Zimmerman's belief system. Whether he was racist or not. But I dont feel one has to hate a race to be racist. Racism is when you base an assumption on someone on their race, which I feel was the case here. I think its impossible to prove how someone felt in a situation. But this case ended in a dangerous manner. Now people may kill others and claim "Self Defense"! And just because one claims it, makes the killing justifiable?

Side: No way!
1 point

Oops, I dont think one can claim self defense against one whom they themselves pursued. Also, this case outcome is unsettling. It tells people they can pursue others, invoke a response, and if they dont like the response by the very person they pursued, they can shoot them and walk away! Im like WOW!

Side: No way!
1 point

One last point. I think the State Proved their case, the Jury just didnt WANT to convict George! Think about it. 6 women made a decision to let this man walk amongst Millions. Also, I believe Juries are influenced by their own belief systems as well. If they themselves feared black males, they may not convict the killers of black males, esp if the killer claims to be a block watch concerned for his community. I feel this ladies would have convicted a black man under the exact circumstances had the tables been turned. But its all Done now. Let George Zimmerman and OJ Simpson BE !

Side: No way!