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What's good for the goose... No
Debate Score:79
Arguments:49
Total Votes:95
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Do Christians have a right to be offended by this?

Do Christians need to start blowing themselves up in order to stop this offensive crap?

Christmas Stamps (www.snopes.com)

What's good for the goose...

Side Score: 23
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No

Side Score: 56

This is why Christians must make a stand.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/1113/p09s02-coop.html

Side: What's good for the goose...
1 point

Take a stand against what, Joe? Stamps? If you truly were a Christian it wouldn't matter a hangnail to you.

Side: No
JakeJ(3255) Disputed
4 points

wow, thats kind of mean, who are you to say if someone is "truly" a Christian?

Side: What's good for the goose...

If Muslims are entitled be offended by petty stuff, then so are the Christians!

Side: What's good for the goose...
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
2 points

Two wrongs don't make a right. It's in the Bible, (actually it's not, I just like telling people it is.)

Side: No
1 point

Don't be ridiculous Joe...This isn't about Christianity and you know it! Even if it were, this is one of the most petty arguments I've ever heard!

Side: Why be angry what's the point

But it's not the most petty argument I've ever posted.... wait.... ;)

Side: No
Chad(51) Disputed
0 points

Muslims AREN'T entitled to be offended by petty stuff. They get offended by cartoons and you get offended by stamps. They're both inexcusably petty.

Side: No

No, I'm not offended by the stamp. I'm offended by the people that target Christians and Patriots with this stuff. Well...., offended is too strong of a word. I really don't get offended by anything. Especially when I can use it as CD fodder ;)

Side: No
rajpadalia(18) Disputed
2 points

Youre making a very broad and ignorant generalization. Any body is ENTITLED to be offended by anything they want. Its ignorant beliefs that cause the problems in the world

Side: What's good for the goose...
1 point

Stamps. Really Islamic people? I don't understand your reasoning. Haha

I roll my eyes...

Geeze...

Side: What's good for the goose...
1 point

Christians have every right to be offended, but i think that if they are mature they wont be.

I am Christian and to be honest i don't really care about that stamp all that much.

Christ had every right to be offended by the people that tortured him to death. -something to thing about.

Side: What's good for the goose...
0 points

Are you comparing a stamp that is meant to commemorate a holiday to crucifying someone? Because if you are, there's a pretty fucking big difference. The problem with what the Christian in this example said, is that she equated Muslim with terrorist and forgot that we are a secular nation.

So yes technically she did have the "right" to be offended, just like I have the "right" to be offended if someone says they like peanuts, but it doesn't make any sense.

Side: No
JakeJ(3255) Disputed
1 point

My point was that just because you are offended by something doesnt mean that you should act on it.

And yeah!, we are a secular nation, so why are so many liberals against saying "merry christmas"?

Side: What's good for the goose...
1 point

Yes, but they don't have the right to do anything about. Be offended all you like, it doesn't mean shit. After all, there are stamps that commemorate christmas. Its not like the muslims are being given preferential treatment.

Side: Be offended all you want

Yes why not, they can be offended of they want to,whether the author is eager to take it into consideration is another story.

Side: What's good for the goose...
4 points

Seriously, is this about a f*&king;stamp?

Side: stamps

Follow the link and read the article before you get your panties in a bunch.

Side: No
1 point

I read the article and your follow-up article from the Christian Science Monitor...It seems your little panties are in a bunch because of a Muslim Stamps...Oh, those bad, bad people who don't have militant views...let's lump them in there and make Islam all bad.

Side: No
2 points

We live in a nation of various religious beliefs. While I may not care for someones choice it isnt up to me to decide for others. Too many people get up on their high horse and forget about others. It doesnt matter if I like your religion or if you like mine. All that matters is that if you believe in something you dont try to force it down peoples throats.

Side: No

Yeah, I don't know how they ever got away with "Deep Throat."

Side: No
1 point

Seriously? I'm not getting this. I did read the article. And I still don't it.

Side: stamps

the point is that most people react to the debate instead of reading the attachment. if you read the attachment you find that there's nothing to get all worked up about.

"The EID stamp is an ordinary first-class postage stamp; all proceeds from its sale go to the USPS, not to any Muslim-related groups or organizations. Boycotting the EID stamp is a purely symbolic act with no financial impact on anyone."

"The USPS already issues stamps commemorating the Christian holiday of Christmas (with both religious and festive themes), the Jewish holiday of Hanukkah, as well as Kwanzaa."

"The EID stamp is often mischaracterized as a "Christmas stamp," but it has nothing to do with Christmas other than that it is part of a series of U.S. postage stamps commemorating several diverse celebrations, some of which generally occur around the November-December "holiday season" timeframe (e.g., Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Thanksgiving), some of which occur at other times of year (e.g., Cinco de Mayo), and some of which move around from year to year (e.g., Eid Al-Fitr and Eid Al-Adha). The statement "[Muslims] don't even believe in Christ and they're getting their own Christmas stamp!" is therefore nonsensical, akin to protesting Hanukkah stamps because "Jews don't even believe in Christ but they have their own Christmas stamp!""

Side: No
2 points

I OPPOSE this one even more than the others...WHY? Because now you want it both ways...now you're trying to squirm out of your own argument about STAMPS! Since when, throughout history, does a stamp have to be dedicated to the American Flag or American everything and anything? The Postal Service here honors many requests for stamps that have nothing to do with America or its holidays. IT'S A STAMP!!!! Stamps honor everything.

Side: No
1 point

Ok, so I was right. And again I ask, seriously? Why would this bother anybody? I don't see the offense.

Side: No

How can anyone with a modicum of intelligence get this?

Side: No
1 point

Thank you! This was so far beyond me that I seriously thought I was missing something!

Side: No
1 point

That is hilarious! No they don't have a right to be offended by this! That is like sayig white people have a right to be offended with a black person on a stamp. OUR NEW PRESIDENT IS BLACK!

Side: No
1 point

Absolutely not. Who cares? If you truly cared about Jesus, the Christ, you would not be so insecure that this would even matter to you. Go do as you are commanded: help the poor, feed the hungry, clothe the poor.

If you do this, as we do in my church, and as I do in my personal journey as a Christian, you will have so little time on your hands and so little left in your wallet that this will be the least of your possible concerns.

Why does this concern you? How is putting out a postage stamp a threat to your beliefs. Is the intolerance we witnessed over the Danish cartoon a few years ago the role model you truly seem to be choosing? If it is, kindly do me the favor and refrain from calling yourself "Christian." Find something else to label yourself, because clearly that is not the path of the genuine article.

Side: No
0 points

Woa woa WOA! Hey there you guys! I finally read the article, and this one sentance is REALLY pissing me off: "The stamp described above exists, although it is neither new nor a Christmas stamp: It is a seven-year-old USPS holiday series stamp comemmorating two Islamic holidays that have no connection to Christmans."

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?! >:I What the hell is this?! So just because there are more Christians in this country than any other religious peoples means that the winter season just automatically revolves around Christmas now?! If this is the whole reason that this article was written then it is all BULL-SHIT! What about Channuka? Or Kwanza? Those are BOTH holidays that have NO connection to Christmas at ALL! Damn! It is people like this who make the Muslim extremists seem not so bad! This author is blaming ALL Muslims for what ONE group of extremists accomplished! And then he/she is going on to say that Christmas is the ONLY winter holiday that deserves federal recognition!

Does anyone besides me realize how FUCKED UP this whole debate is right now? I think all people of other religions have more of a reason to be offended by this article than any Christian does by this stamp!

Side: WHAT THE FUCK