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The Nazis despised the European left, they killed millions of Communists, they were predominantly Christian, they were bigoted against a specific religion which they blamed for everything, they thought crime was race related, they were hardcore patriots, they loved guns and they hated gays.
Do those people sound like Liberals to you, you nonsensical carbon thief?
Yes and look at all those Nazis that no one has ever met.
ANTIFA on the other hand... members galore, and the left is proud of it. You created your own version of Hitler. You must be so proud. I forgot...you already are.
ANTIFA on the other hand... members galore, and the left is proud of it. You created your own version of Hitler
God, you are just soooooooo stupid. Do you feel the same way about the WW2 French Resistance? Were they like Hitler too, for blowing up Nazis?
In fact, why stop there? The extension of your stupid anti-ANTIFA smear campaign "logic" is that everybody who fought Hitler was like Hitler for fighting Hitler.
You are a bloody idiot, bronto. You are actually so stupid that it is dangerous to other people.
The difference is that in WW2 there actually were Nazis and lots of them. The lack of sufficient Nazis to fight means Antifa must pretend that all who disagree are Nazis. This makes them an aggressive lot that wants to violently suppress the freedoms of others. In this way they are like the enemy the process to oppose.
The difference is that in WW2 there actually were Nazis and lots of them. The lack of sufficient Nazis to fight means Antifa must pretend that all who disagree are Nazis..
ANTIFA is an anti-fascist organisation, not an anti-Nazi organisation. The Nazis were not even the only fascists of their era, so why are you trying to pretend the only fascists in the world are Nazis?
Oh, yes that's right. Because you're a lying Jewish crook.
After the persecution Jews discovered at the hands of the Nazis, I cannot even begin to imagine the type of nauseating personality it would take for a Jew such as yourself to act like a Nazi. You should be fucking ashamed of yourself. Then again, anybody with any shame would not lie all day long like you do in the first place.
ANTIFA is an anti-fascist organisation, not an anti-Nazi organisation
why are you trying to pretend the only fascists in the world are Nazis?
First, they’re not really. Second, I don’t, but they like to call people Nazis an aweful lot.
Because you're a lying Jewish crook
I know why you call me a liar, you think it distracts from your lying. I know why you call me Jewish, because Jews are smarter than you. But what lead you to calling me a crook? What criminal evidence do you have against me?
scholarship was a left wing conspiracy because it disagreed with the Nazis
See, I never said that. This kind of lying followed by a barrage of insults is why you have no credibility. You seem like you might actually be a troll for the Right with the ugly representation of a leftist you present. On top of that, you repeatedly walk away right after your opponents make good points. Occasionally you drop an empty insult before you leave. It all just sets the stage for your opponents to win at every turn. And you’re so cartoonish about it, which makes me expect this is entertainment for you too.
So you are either a troll for the right, or you are a pitiful example of the left, in which case you really are like a rapist with erectile disfunction.
Yes, you literally did. You argued that the Nazis were left wing progressives, I proved you wrong by quoting Wikipedia, you denied what I quoted was truthful, claimed academic scholarship was biased to the left, and then quoted Hitler.
Everything you say is the opposite of the truth. You are a worthless fascist toad with literally zero sense of responsibility to the facts. Everything about you disgusts me.
Already changing your tune haha. Yes, academia is biased to the left. But I never said, as you claimed that “academic scholarship is a secret left wing plot to reverse the truth about which side of the political spectrum Nazis were on”.
Bias matters stupid. Academics agree the Nazi are right wing because they choose to focus on Nazi nationalism rather than Nazi socialistic policies. This bias obscures the distinction between Nazis and the modern right wing US, which is predominantly capitalistic, while emphasizing the distinction and ignoring the similarities between Nazism and the left. The institutions required for capitalism necessarily support economic liberty and are thus antithetical to authoritarianism. Which means antithetical to Nazis. Physically attacking your political opponents, an increasingly common left wing tactic, is not antithetical to that kind of authoritarianism.
This leftist bias also chooses to focus much less on the death toll from the atrocities of the multiple communist failures of the 20th Century. It’s not a cover up and it’s not a plot. It’s confirmation bias.
You make it so easy that I think you might be on my side.
Academia is the professional study of facts, so if you are morally comfortable insisting that facts have a left wing bias then I am morally comfortable agreeing with you.
Since most of the professors are liberal academics. In some areas of study, all professors are liberal. The convey their bias to their students. Once upon a time most academics were conservative and, surprise surprise, so were most educated people.
The difference is that in WW2 there actually were Nazis and lots of them.
Hello A:
Yeah.. Like bront, you think the Nazis we see on television are just PRETENDING... They're just playing dress up.. So, they simply CAN'T be as dangerous as "real" Nazis..
So, they simply CAN'T be as dangerous as "real" Nazis
They’re not. Just like all the little communists are not as dangerous as Stalin or Mao. They don’t have the political machine supporting them. Movements become exponentially more dangerous when the general culture supports them, and again moreso when the government supports them. Policy follows culture. Since violent leftists have significant cultural support when compared to Violent Nazis, who have very little support, they are the bigger concern. Fuck Nazis, but more urgently, Fuck Antifa.
2)Muslims by the millions praise Hitler and hate Jews.
3)Liberals are Christians. They remind me all the time.
4)Hitler demonized Christians once he had control. You left that out.
5)I've never seen the modern right ally with Islam politically. Hitler did.
6)If Muslims are flaunting swastikas, go ahead, denounce them...
7)Islam is far far right wing per liberal definition, yet amazingly Muslims that vote in the West vote heavily left wing and are supported by? The left wing. I wonder why that is. No...I don't. I know why....
People like you will constantly equate Nazis with the Right. This is in part because of the nationalism of the National Socialist. You persist in this lie by ignoring not only the socialist title of the Nazis but also by ignoring Nazi Party Platform which reads like a progressive manifesto.
The Nazis were not socialists. Upon election of the National Socialist German Worker's Party socialists and social democrat organizers and leaders were sent to Dachau for reeducation.
Browsing the Nazi Party platform will tell you clearly enough what the Nazi position is. Here are a few excerpts:
We demand:
-Abolition of unearned work and labour incomes. Breaking of debt interest-slavery. (They were anti-banking)
-The nationalisation of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).
-A division of profits of all heavy industries.
-An expansion on a large scale of old age welfare
-The formation of a strong central power in the Reich.
The Nazis also believed in "The common good before the individual good. (Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz)Has also been translated as "The good of the state before the good of the individual."
Yeah, Germany’s national socialists were also enemies with the united soviet socialist republic. To claim the national socialists were not socialists because they killed socialists, while ignoring their socialists policies, is to claim the Bloods aren’t a street gang because the kill Crips, which is a street gang. Their both still street gangs.
You know who makes laws for classes of people rather than individuals? You know who requires authoritarian repressive measures? You know who strictly manages their economy? It’s not one or the other, it’s both.
You persist in this lie by ignoring not only the socialist title of the Nazis
The Nazis called themselves socialists because, like you, they were also liars. The Wiki entry I have quoted for you now three times explains why the Nazis called themselves socialists. Why don't you stop lying for half a second and read the fucking thing, you idiot?
Your appeal to authority is expected as most scholars are on the left as well.
I previously posted a long list of direct quotes from the Nazi Party platform that were all current progressive positions. You ignored it per your usual evasion. If you wish to address this argument, go respond to it. No one ever stopped you.
academic scholarship is a secret left wing plot to reverse the truth about which side of the political spectrum Nazis were on?
No.
You're a stupid, lying neo-Nazi scuzzbucket. Go away
This is why I enjoy talking to you. Your defunct rhetoric is backed by nothing but emotionalism. You’re like a rapist with erectile dysfunction.
Scholars refer to the Nazis as being right wing not based on their economics, but their racism and nationalism. Stating (accurately) that the Nazis were Socialist is not to say they weren’t racist or nationalistic. But that only makes them different from the Communists in that the commies are classist and globalists. So while Nazis wanted the world to be white Germany, the Russians wanted the world to be united proletariat Communists. Not a big difference since both were authoritarian socialists.
I previously posted a long list of direct quotes from the Nazi Party platform that were all current progressive positions.
Oh, of course, buddy. The Nazis weren't authoritarians. They were progressives. They themselves said as much, so it must be true. Forget all the academic research. The Nazis are the world authority on truth.
LOL
You deny being a Nazi, yet you believe the Nazis were telling the truth and everybody else is lying? Cool beans brother. Hope to see you at Nuremburg.
The Nazis weren't authoritarians. They were progressives.
I’m sure you’re misrepresentation of my position was an accident. They are both authoritarian, the Progressives just don’t wield the political power the Nazis did. If Antifa controlled the political machine, all opposition would be called Nazis and cleansed from the system for their hate.
You deny being a Nazi
Hell, you’re more politically aligned with them. Left of the Nazis were the Communists. Right of the Nazis were less violent socialists.
Browsing the Nazi Party platform will tell you clearly enough what the Nazi position is. Here are a few excerpts:
We demand:
-Abolition of unearned work and labour incomes. Breaking of debt interest-slavery. (They were anti-banking)
-The nationalisation of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).
-A division of profits of all heavy industries.
-An expansion on a large scale of old age welfare
-The formation of a strong central power in the Reich.
The Nazis also believed in "The common good before the individual good. (Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz)Has also been translated as "The good of the state before the good of the individual."
The fact that the Nazis supported industry cannot accurately be taken to mean they were capitalists. Their party platform makes the opposite case apparent
Nazis where socialist which is more of a left wing ideological stance. Also, Nazis attitudes towards Christianity is as follows; Nazi ideology could not accept an autonomous establishment whose legitimacy did not spring from the government. Mathew 22:21- "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's". This line from Mathew separates Christianity from claim upon terrestrial power. Nazis desired the subordination of the church to the state not its separation.
Yes they blamed the Jews for the worlds problems but is that no different then the left blaming white Christian males? Now before you play the Muslim card on the right you should know the right does not hate Muslims. They understand that a disproportionate amout of Muslims commit terrorist attacks around the world.
Yes Nazis loved guns... in the hands of people who did not disagree with them. German citizens were disarmed by their government in the late 30's. The left is constantly shouting "Gun Control", and "Ban Guns" and most recently "Repeal the Second Amendment".
Nazis committed despicable acts against Homosexuals during the Third Reich. They indeed hated gays. Christians do not hate gay people, or at least they shouldn't. Christians who do are reading the bible wrong.
Nazis where socialist which is more of a left wing ideological stance.
How is it possible that anybody could be so stupid that they do not know which side of the spectrum the Nazis were on?
National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsɪzəm, ˈnæt-/),[1] is the ideology and set of practices associated with the 20th-century German Nazi Party, Nazi Germany and other far-right groups. Usually characterized as a form of fascism that incorporates scientific racism and antisemitism, Nazism's development was influenced by German nationalism (especially Pan-Germanism), the Völkisch movement and the anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary groups that emerged during the Weimar Republic after Germany's defeat in World War I.
The majority of scholars identify Nazism in both theory and practice as a form of far-right politics.
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