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Debate Score:252
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Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People

Yes

Side Score: 177
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No

Side Score: 75
9 points

Yes deaf people should be treated equally as hearing people. I bet most of you guys know that most of hearing people are discriminating against deaf people for ages so enough is enough. No excuse for hearing people to say deaf people shouldn't be treated equally. Deaf people can do anything, they are just like you people. Use your fucking brain and try thinking harder. Hearing people need to stop discriminating, stereotyping, misjudging or making assumptions or thinking deaf people can't do anything or is as dumb as mentally challenged people or whatever the fuck you think. Speaking of truth, not all deaf people are bad or dumb or mentally challenged or ill or death. By equally we are saying that neither of us is better. There is nothing equal about the equal treatment of unequals. Deaf people can do anything except hear it's not the end of the world. Deaf people learn English for communicating with hearing people. Most of deaf people can talk and read lips. What about hearing people? Not many hearing people are willing to learn American Sign Language for deaf people. There need more hearing people learn American Sign Language so they can communicate with deaf people. I think it would be fair. We all need learn how cooperative communication contributes to better relationships at home and at work and prevents unnecessary conflict.

Side: yes
2 points

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!! Hearing people need to realize that this is not their world. Cheers to you!!!

Side: yes
for2b2c(8) Disputed
0 points

Mr. Deafman, you are not doing a favor for Deaf people. You have foul language in your posting. You also made generalization that hearing people always discriminate, stereotype, or misjudge Deaf people. That is not true. There are hearing people who respect and care about Deaf people. The matter should not about Hearing or Deaf as that only segregates us all further. The matter should be about treating everyone with respect and compassion. Respect and compassion must be mutual, too. If Deaf people want Hearing people to respect and care about them, they should offer the same attitude toward the Hearing people.

Regarding learning English, talking and reading lips, some Deaf people successfully achieve these skills, some do not. Same with Hearing people, some can write English well and understand ASL well, some cannot. All depends on family background and schooling experiences.

Yes, Hearing people need to learn more ASL to communicate with Deaf people, but the same logic goes for Deaf people. Deaf people need to learn English well too. "When in Rome, do what Romans do". After all, English is the official language in the U.S. Whether Deaf or Hearing; European, Asian or African; etc. when you live in a country, you must adapt to how that country functions. An official language facilitates the mutual connection for ALL cultural groups within a country. Some Deaf people do not understand this view and insist that they do not care about using proper English. That view of "I don't care about using English right because I am Deaf" does not help Deaf people, instead hurting their chances to succeed in jobs, universities, etc. Because ASL is a gestural, pictorial, spatial language with no written form, and because ASL glossing is only a tool to translate ASL into English, ASL cannot be reflected on paper. If Deaf people insist that they only learn ASL and ignore English (or whatever official written language of the country they live in), they will never be able to read printed materials properly, and that will hurt their accessibility to information.

I have learned from several deaf teachers. I respect them dearly. I never think about their deafness. I regard them simply as "teachers". One of those teachers can write excellent English, and I could tell she can read well in English too. Does her excellent capacity in English make her any "less deaf" or "less Deaf"? No, she is still deaf and still part of the Deaf culture. She still uses ASL and teaches ASL. However, her excellency in English has opened her ability to enjoy literature and enhanced her life experiences. And the students, some deaf, some hearing, admire her even more. See, the point here? It is not about English v. ASL, it is about achieving the scholastic abilities....

Side: No
6 points

Deaf people should be treated equally as hearing people because they are entitled to the same rights as hearing people do and if some of these rights are not met, then it may result in a violation of their constitutional rights. Also, there are other alternatives available to communicate with them.

Side: yes

As a hearing friend of many deaf persons, I believe without a doubt that the non-hearing and hearing are equal. Although the deaf may have a "handicap" that may require additional treatment, I believe that the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) should universally cover these handicaps.

There is nothing that a hearing person can do that a deaf person cannot.

Side: yes
5 points

Why wouldn't we treat them equally? I think they want to be like everyone else.

Side: yes
5 points

My cousin is 'deaf'. However, when she wears hearing aids, she can hear perfectly and other than that, she is completely normal and fine. A wonderful little bright, happy, dancing 8-year-old.

So yes, if it's not a disability and they don't NEED special treatment or different treatment, then of course they should be treated equally.

If it's not equal, it better not be degrading or worse. If anything, when needed, it should be a HELPFUL difference.

Side: yes
1 point

True, the main word is EQUALITY. Deafness is indeed a disability, from medical viewpoint, but not a disability from cultural view point. If a person is born deaf or has become deaf, the main thing is to find ways to help that person function well, live independently, and integrate successfully into the mainstream society. "Help" does not mean degrading pity; rather "help" means respect, love and be there for one another - as human beings. For example, "I know you have difficulty in physical capacity of hearing, let me use mine to compensate what you lack so that you can EQUALLY access information and function in life". Or for example, "You cannot hear. It is not your fault. You are not less than I am. However, let me interpret for you...let me use my ears for both you and me".

Side: Yes
5 points

As a deaf person, I believe that deaf people should be treated equally as hearing people. Just because they're deaf doesn't mean they're of any less value than hearing people. I also find it sad to see that these jobs that deaf people can do most often go to the hearing people. WHY? Deaf people have needs just as the hearing people do. Deafness is what sets these two groups of people apart. I think that like the hearing people, deaf people should be treated equally when it comes to employment that they can do as well as other things. I have no idea why some hearing people have a really hard time grasping the concept that yes, deaf people have needs and yes, they have rights. Deaf people need to take care of their needs just like the hearing people do. Why are they not letting us do exactly that?

Side: yes
2 points

Very nice posting. The sad truth is people are often afraid of what they perceive as "being different". Unless hearing people come into daily contact with deaf people, the misunderstanding will persist. The solution is to integrate more deaf people into the mainstream society, instead of keeping deaf people separately in Deaf Residential Schools or within certain Deaf communities only. The more contact the hearing people have with deaf people, the more understanding they will become. Before I started learning ASL, and before I had a chance to learn from a deaf teacher, I had not known what to expect of such learning experience. However, I am very lucky, I am learning from an excellent deaf teacher, and I realize that she is no different than any of us. Well, yes, she cannot hear and has a tad of difficulty in speaking, but besides those physical conditions, she is just exactly the same as any of us. She has feelings, love, desires, enjoyment and bad temper moments too. (smile). So, I think if society integrates deaf and hearing people together, and Deaf communities open themselves up to the Hearing communities, mutual understanding will take place...

Side: Yes
5 points

of course how whould you fill if you were deaf and every one treated you different

Side: yes
5 points

of course their just the same as every one else i mean i would fell bad if people were treating me different just because i was deaf

Side: yes
4 points

Well, duh. It's a deaf person's dream to be treated as an equal to the norm. But in reality, it doesn't seem like it'll ever really exist for a disabled to be equal to society. Can a blind person ever be treated like a seeing person? Probably not. The disabled get too much unwanted pity and we reach a point where we're like, "fine, whatever." And then we take advantage of what we can (like Social security) because it seems like even if we didn't bother and we tried to be an equal to others, it just doesn't happen.

Side: yes

Without a doubt, YES! We may, indeed, have to be a bit more tolerant of people who are deaf, mute and sightless. Even though they have a handicap they do well when trained in ASL. While many hearing people do not know ASL the people closest to them will and there is always pencil and paper to write things down. We must not put them down because of their handicap...we must lift them up and make life a bit easier for them. And why not? They need us and we need them! They are our parents, our siblings, our extended family, friends and another human being in need of a fair shot at life. It's not a hard thing to do...to be humane and human.

Side: yes

Why was this argument down voted? An opinion was asked for and given. Not liking the opinion is a poor excuse for a down vote. So come out of hiding and state your case!

Side: yes
1 point

Deafness is not a handicap, it's a cultural thing. Deaf people communicate by lip-reading and ASL (American Sign Language). It's like learning a foreign language to those who don't know English or ASL. It's a communication barrier not being able to use the same language for anyone. Deaf people can do anything, the only thing they can't do is hear. They don't consider themselves handicapped, at all. They use their eyes to overcompensate their deafness. Thank you for supporting the Deaf community by giving them a chance, because they are human.

Side: yes
4 points

Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People?

Yes!

Do I think additional requirements are necessary for the assurance of equality and safety for the deaf? Undeniably!

Should deaf people be regarded as though they are not deaf when their deafness compromises their safety? Absolutely not!

Side: yes
handsdown(142) Disputed
1 point

You just brought up another point, deaf people may not survive in our dangerous world! They can't hear passing cars on streets or people screaming at them to get out of the way of something potentially dangerous! As much as some deaf may deserve being treated equally, they can't properly function in our complicated world!

Side: No
sarahmoran(1) Disputed
3 points

You do not understand that since a Deaf person cannot hear, they're eyes are more perceptive. They might not HEAR the car passing by, but they definitely see them. They function quite well. I happen to be the daughter of two Deaf adults and I see no harm in them being treated equally.

Side: yes
Derek Troy(2) Disputed
2 points

Hey, I am deaf and I flat out don't care that some idiots will put down deaf people. If you see any deaf people who are rude to hearing people, I will just smile. You are a good example of why deaf people would want to be rude to a hearing person.

Side: yes
4 points

Yes. First of all, deafness is NOT a disablity. In the words of many deaf people, "I can do anything a hearing person can do except hear."

And deaf people are not meant to be pitied. At all. They are perfectly capable of living in this world deaf. They don't need our pity. Wouldn't it be annoying if everyone pitied you?

You cannot put deafness and blindness into the same category. Deaf people have a culture and a language (yes, sign language is a language), while blind people do not.

You may value your hearing, but they value their deafness. Especially if they've never heard anything, and they learn how to function like the majority.

In conclusion, people should stop pitying them, and stop calling them disabled, because they are not. At all.

Side: yes
4 points

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!! You're the best!!!!!

Side: yes

I'm sorry, could you repeat the question? I have tinnitus and didn't quite make out what you said. ;)

Side: yes
trdenham1(1) Disputed
2 points

Are you trying to be a smartass? I don't find this funny at all, about your tinitus! This is an email, not a voice message, ding dong!

Side: No

Why should I care what you find funny? BTW, this isn't an e-mail, it's a forum and I can say any damn thing I want ;)

Side: yes
2 points

Socially, any deaf person should be treated with equality. Ignorance is a hard concept to understand but thats what most of you people are showing. "Sign Language" is a language, in fact: American Sign Language (ASL - 500,000 to 2,000,000 signers in the United States in addition to others abroad), British Sign Language (BSL - over 50,000 first-language signers), French Sign Language (LSF - 80,000 to 300,000 signers), and International Sign Language (also known as International Sign Pidgin, Gestuno, or ISL). Certainly, some things are not as convienent for them, however they should be treated to the same standard as any American. They are perfectly capable of comprehending life itself as far as education, work place and all others just as any hearing person. God Bless you all.

Side: yes
2 points

Barriers to communication are socially constructed. During the early years of America, a community of people lived in Martha's Vineyard who had hereditary deafness. Everyone knew sign language, both Deaf and hearing. Town meetings were attended and participated by everyone, so when Deaf people attended, they signed and were understood; people signed and spoke who were hearing so all had access.

Side: Yes
ASLVillage(5) Clarified
2 points

There are numerous classes in ASL offered in both high school and college levels. Taking classes in ASL will broaden your abilities to see things from a visual perspective. Open your mind to the possibilities of using this amazing gift of sign. It's not just for Deaf people anymore.

Side: Yes
2 points

ummm I'm deaf and i do better than half the people at my school so yes we should be treated like equals if someone has cancer would u treat them differently or how about mute people or what if you lost YOUR hearing. You wouldn't want to treated different now would you. No. So shut up and be nice thank you

Side: Yes
1 point

I am deaf also here. I became deaf since I was born. Guys, can you imagine that my real parents heard from the doctor that something wrong with my hearing and my whole family was so upset and sad about this result and then my mother who I love and adore so much, she teaches me all about this earth and what is right and wrong thing happen that much? And then, she shows me what true love is. That's a big love she gives to me so much which now and so on my spirit is getting higher and higher with full of hope and strength to pass all obstacles in this earth. The deaf people shouldn't be treated equally with hearing people? Let me judge this quick, that's so wrong!

Side: yes
1 point

i say that all deaf people should be treated fairly you may not like it but they are the same as everyone else i am a 15 year old teenage boy and i have a 7 year old sister that is 100Þaf in both ears she is no different than anyone else. yea she may be deaf but so what she is the sweetest little girl in the world. to all of you that say no they dont deserve to be treated fairly well than think about this. What if you were deaf and people were descriminating you i bet you sure as hell wouldnt like it now would you. they have no idea what sound is and some of them never will my sister will never hear and every time i see a little girl talking to there family it brings tears to my eyes and i cant help but think why why is it my sister that was born deaf but hey i would rather have a deaf sister than no sister at all and the next time any of you look down at deaf people just remember that you are all haters. keep in mind this is comming from a 15 year old boy!

Side: yes
1 point

I hope you love your sister enough to learn sign so the two of you can have open communication with each other. My dream is remove the socially constructed barriers for people who are Deaf by encouraging more people to learn sign. It is an amazing language and is readily available in classes everywhere. This debate would not even be happening if more people knew sign. Kinda silly, really. People all should be treated equally. It is sad there are haters out there, but maybe they just need an opportunity to open their minds to new ideas. Equality to all!

Side: Yes
1 point

honestly why the fuck is this even be a debate i mean i think that it is pretty obviouse that every one should be treated equally its the way it is supposed to be its not that fucking hard to treat people equally but its pretty hard to treat others/ people with disabilities (i put disabilities because i couldnt think of the word i needed) any ways its true what they say treat people the way you want to be treated and it would be wise if everyone followed it i know that there are alot of people that support deaf people or people that are disabled (couldnt find the right word) but at the same time for every one person that supports there are two people that dont support. those people that dont support are all of the people that do not understand what its like for disabled people to have to listen to the shit that non supporters say to or about them and for deaf people they can just tell that they are getting made fun of i think that all you non supporters also in my mind called HATERS you all need to deal with it and stop being assholes it pisses me off and im sure it pisses off all off my friends that support this debate and all others that are supporters.

Side: yes
1 point

Yes, Many Deaf people can read lips. Meaning they can do anyting a person with hearing can. It isn't like they have some major defect where they cant keep up.

Side: yes
1 point

No offense aveskde(1870 but you have a very narrow mind because you are missing the point, please read this question one more time "Do you think deaf people should be TREATING equally as hearing people?".

We are talking about how hearing people should be treating deaf people equally not mistreating, misjudge, workplace harassment and hostile or abusive environment. Do Deaf people have the right to work anywhere where hearing people work? Yes. Do Deaf people have the right to know what is going on on the News with close caption on all the time? Yes. Do Deaf people have the right to be treating equally by hearing people? Yes. We can do pretty much anything like hearing people do. Phone: we use TTY or cell phone with test message. Communication: we can read lips or write it down. Just because we can't hear doesn't mean we are stupid. We can survive without hearing people in our own world. We can make our own hearing aid and close caption. Yes, Hearing people and Deaf people are different so are man and woman.

Side: Yes
2 points

There is something called "Deaf Gain" or "Deaf Advantage". Look back in history during WWII. In Akron, Ohio, Goodyear recruited Deaf people to work for them, even providing sport leagues, club houses for meetings, open captioned movies, etc to entice more Deaf people to want to work for them. Deaf people are very visual and can notice things faster in a visual environment. Think of the advantage of having a Deaf detective who is at the crime scene as an investigator, noticing things the hearing may overlook. Deaf people can do anything except hear.

Side: Yes
1 point

Yes I do. People whom are hearing impaired are just as capable as the rest of us in doing things. I can agree with some of the naysayers to a point. There are certain situations where having hearing is imperative, such as working in the Police Force, Fire Dept, Railroad Industry. All of these industryies require communication to be fast, I am NOT saying that deaf individuals cannot think fast, but it is the form of communication that they utilize. When a life is on the line, seconds are vital. Deaf individuals know this, and I am pretty sure they understand the berevity of those jobs. The only problem I have is that I find that many individuals that I deal with that are hearing impaired expect me to have a pen and paper handy for them when they wish to communicate with me. Not all of them are like, but the large majority of hearing impaired that I deal with are, I don't mind helping out people, it just seems that when I cannot get the pen and paper fast enough, I get treated very rudely, as if I was to know automatically what they needed and had it on hand.... That's my only problem with hearing impaired individuals. And anyone whom thinks that they cannot function normally has obviously never heard of Mozart.

Side: Yes
1 point

This is a world of mixed peoples and types. Deaf people have no more or less value than those who are not deaf.

As to the question of whether they should be treated equally at all times, I'd say that my response is both a yes and a resounding no.

As Aristotle would say, we should treat equals equally and unequals unequally with respect to their relevant differences.

Deaf people should be treated with equal respect and equally with regard to any and all things that they can do as well as everyone else (which is most things). However, we should not treat them as we would a hearing person. It would be unfair to expect the same response from them if we choose to only use the same communication as we would with a hearing person. We also cannot treat a deaf person as though they would be aware of any communication outside of their visual range. In this sense, there is an inequality, it is not one that adds or removes value from the person, but simply require appropriately different treatment.

Only by respecting those differences with relative treatment can we honestly treat the deaf person as an equal in all other ways. :)

Deaf people deserve to be given the same level of respect as the rest of us, one would not expect an English speaker to function in a situation where English is not spoken, we cannot expect a deaf person to function in a situation where their language is not spoken.

That is the only relevant difference, but we must keep it in mind.

Side: Yes
1 point

HELL YEAH I THINK DEAF PEOPLE SHOULD BE TREATED THE SAME AS HEARING PEOPLE. WTF DID THE DEAF PEOPLE DO TO GET TREATED WRONG. WHY SHOULDNT THEY GET TRETED THE RIGHT WAY. THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE ON THE FACE OF THIS EARTH THAT GOD PUT US ON. GOD PUT US HUMAS ON THIS EARTH TO BE TREATED WITH RESPECT AND BE NICE TO EACH OTHER. HE DID NOT PUT ON THIS EARTH TO BE TREATED WITH DISRESPECT. GOT DOES NOT LIKE UGLY. THOSE OF YOU WHO TREAT DEAF PEOPLE WRONG YOUR GOING TO HELL. I HAVE TONS OF DEAF FRIENDS AND RELITIVES. BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN I TREAT THEM WRONG.I LOVE MY DEAF RELATIVE AND FRIENDS, I WOULD NEVER TREAT SOMEONE LIKE THAT WITH DISRESPECT AND YOU SHOULDNT EITHER

Side: Yes
1 point

I have hearing loss and I find that people have a low tolerance for repeating what they say. It is not that I don't hear them, I cannot understand certain sounds. I have frequency drop-outs that hearing aids cannot fix. I read lips, gestures and body language to "fill in the blanks". Sometimes I get impatient with the hearers because they get impatient and I just pretend that I don't hear them at all. Before my military experience I could hear a whisper across the room, now I can not understand my children when they whisper in my ear. I am limited by my lack of hearing, there are jobs I'm not fitted for. The worse limitation I have is the one I set on myself. I have to put more effort in to a situation than a fully hearing person. One more thing, equality is relative, five hundred pounds of lead and five hundred pounds of rice both equal five hundred pounds, but, they are different.

Side: Yes
1 point

That this question is even phrased the way it is, is OFFENSIVE. The lady that said we don't function as well as hearing made me sick. These are the same people that want to kick me in the ass and tell me that it's not an excuse....but they are the same who do not want to hire you. Thank GOD for the good people who don't see us as useless protoplasm, those who treat us with dignity. I have 32 years of work in the hospital because of them. Seriously....if you are going to pose a question like that, why don't you just suggest they kill us as soon as we are diagnosed. Thanks for setting us back in the stone age!!! Social isolation is lots of fun. Let us get disability then. Myself, I would rather work! You can't have it both ways. Please stay away if you are so inconvenienced. I have to put up with your crap too, and sometimes you stink. Its sad you have the upper hand!!!! Last and not least....I paid $4000. for new "digital" hearing aid devices in January....they help, but they aren't a cure-all. It isn't fun to come up with the funds. If the brain doesn't de-code the sound, it doesn't matter how loud it is made. Audism stinks. Still, in light of the above, I try to be good to people. I give them a chance, let's treat one another with dignity and respect. If I see that isn't going to happen, then I minimize my losses and move on....it's going to have to be your loss!

Side: Yes
1 point

No, they should be treated as superior. Most hearing people are to arrogant to understand.

Side: Yes
1 point

Of coarse they should. Why not? There people just like colored people or not should still be treated equally. Do not judge a book by the cover. Just because there deaf they are not regular people. No, that's not they way it works. Or at least the world should should not be that way. Deaf people have enhanced other senses since they lost one. The are mammals just like us, living and breathing people. So yea, they should be treated equally as regular people.

Side: Yes
1 point

I think they should be treated exactly the same except for the fact that people would be a bit more understanding and kinder towards deaf people due to their disability and know that they ARE deaf before completely taking them for a un- deaf person.

Side: Yes

Yes

Side: Yes
-1 points

All of you are retarded why hire a deaf person when you can hire a hearing person? Especially when jobs are scarce, deaf people are hard pressed to find jobs so wooooooo

Side: No
DeafLegacy(5) Disputed
6 points

why do people like you have a hard time understanding that deaf people can work in some areas and also have needs just like hearing people?

Side: No
trdenham1(1) Disputed
4 points

Woah!!!! Excuse me? A Deaf person can be as QUALIFIED as a hearing person, if not more qualified. You've got some nerve. We are all not retarded, you are.

Side: No
trdenham1(1) Disputed
2 points

Woah!!!! Excuse me? A Deaf person can be as QUALIFIED as a hearing person, if not more qualified. You've got some nerve. We are all not retarded, you are.

(This was supposed to be tagged as yes)

Side: yes
1 point

Agree!! Those retarded people have sooo narrow brain, so no wonder they can say like that easily..

Side: No
for2b2c(8) Disputed
1 point

This is a very rude comment. It shows you have no humanity concepts of love, compassion, equality, etc. It's people like you who should not be hired, Iluvshakira.

Side: No
4 points

I agree with Kab115. Deaf should always be treated equally. It's like asking if another race should be treated equally! OF COURSE THEY SHOULD.

Side: yes
3 points

Thank you, thank you, thank you, and thank you! Some people just don't get it, and they continue to have doubts about the Deaf community surviving in this world.

Side: No
2 points

As much as I believe they should be, for their well-being, it won't be good for them, they would be teased without knowing it and that hurts the people who are watching that have consciousnesses. No offense to any deaf person, but most can't function as well as hearing people. The treatment they are currently getting helps them feel normal and accepted, and it is good for their well-being too.

Side: No
trdenham1(1) Disputed
5 points

I'm sorry, but I disagree with you. You are ignorant and don't have a clue. Deaf people can function as well as anyone in this world. What treatments are you talking about, that supposed to make them feel normal/accepted, good for their well-being? What are you talking about? As far as being teased, Deaf people don't have problems confronting the person, they can fend for themselves. They know when they're being teased.

Side: yes
2 points

Equity is the answer rather than equality. You can't expect a deaf person to function normally without some changes in the workplace to cater for them, and I think the majority understand this. In some cases it would mean putting their own, or others lives in danger, which is not acceptable. Yes, they are just a human like the rest of us, but just like a wheelchair bound person needs a ramp/lift in the workplace, so does a deaf person need suitable allowances made for them.

Side: No
Nichole(689) Disputed
2 points

So, you're saying the deaf and handicapped are such burdens that we don't deserve to be treated like others? How kind of you. And all this time the norm are also bitching about the handicapped taking their taxes. I suppose if everyone thinks like you do, they deserve your taxes.

I've come to this point over and over again, and it's that the norm just absolutely doesn't understand what the disabled go through.

Side: yes
Jesus(202) Disputed
1 point

I don't understand what your problem is, I said equity, not equality. A deaf person, most likely can't work for a call center taking, but they can do paperwork. As long as they are working, or putting something back into the community I see them far from being a burden. Maybe you should read what I was saying before coming to such ludicrous conclusions

Supporting Evidence: Employment Equity (en.wikipedia.org)
Side: No
1 point

I think some people may be confusing this as "should we be prejudiced against deaf people?" This is wrong in so many ways (especially since that deaf person could be you in 50 years!) But I don't think we should be treated equally. I think people should go out of their way to accommodate to the needs of these people and make sure they understand the things we say. Treat them better than people who can hear, unless they turn out to be a$$holes. ;)

Side: No
trdenham1(1) Disputed
1 point

I disagree, Deaf people deserve equal treatment. They don't want better treatment because of their deafness, they don't want to be enabled or "babied". Would you like to be treated like a child?

Side: yes

This is a very difficult debate question to answer. (Good job!) Normally I would say everybody should be treated equally, but the hard thing about being deaf and being treated equally is you really can't be treated equally. Because people who are not deaf rely so much on sound in their everyday lives that if deaf people were to incorporate themselves and insist upon being treated equally, communication would go to hell in a hand basket. It would be a Communication Breakdown!! Hahaha get it?? I crack myself up..

Side: No
trdenham1(1) Disputed
3 points

Ha ha ha ha ha, that's so funny, NOT!!!!!!! Grow up! You have no clue about Deaf people! Deaf people do read lips, you'd be surprised how far in distance they can read lips. Not only they read lips, they read facial expressions, body language and gestures. They don't need to rely solely on sound, they rely on perception which is very important in this world. What about hearing people listening to iphones, music, and other loud noises when they can't hear people trying to get their attention? This world does NOT belong to only hearing people!

Side: yes
1 point

Deaf people are categorically unequal. When you have a population with an ability that is lacking in another population, there is no equality.

Should we treat them as equals? In terms of respect, compassion, and your basic rights, certainly. However their disability means that they can't function equally under all circumstances. This needs to be accounted for.

Fortunately we have cochlear implants, which assist in this issue.

Side: No
trdenham1(1) Disputed
2 points

The only thing Deaf people can't do is hear, they CAN function equally under 99% circumstances. You have no clue. Seeing is way more important than hearing in this world. Hearing aids and Cochlear Implants are helpful to SOME, not all Deaf people. Do some research to get the right facts.

Side: yes
aveskde(1935) Disputed
4 points

The only thing Deaf people can't do is hear,

Correct. Which means that they are disabled, especially since sound is a very important human sense.

they CAN function equally under 99% circumstances.

Can a deaf person watch television without subtitles? Can a deaf person listen to radio? Music? Speech without reading lips or sign language? Can a deaf person hear automobiles on highways and use that to avoid being run over when crossing? Can a deaf person sense any incoming danger which is audible?

It is a handicap. A severe one. Pretending that deaf people are equally capable is to give them confidence about their condition which has no basis in reality.

You have no clue. Seeing is way more important than hearing in this world.

Sight is another one of the important senses, along with smell, taste, and touch. Being able to hear is something that we take for granted and it is critical in a fast-paced society full of danger and information.

Hearing aids and Cochlear Implants are helpful to SOME, not all Deaf people. Do some research to get the right facts.

I never said that Cochlear Implants are a perfect solution. I said that they assist and reduce the problem of deafness.

Cochlear Implants are most important for children and young adolescents, who can still learn how to process speech. However the deaf community has worked against them because of their belief in their "culture." I can understand that for a minority of people who have had to live with a serious impediment for centuries, forming a culture of support is crucial to emotional well-being. However, now that deafness is no longer a permanent condition, the "culture" is working against medical progress.

It also doesn't change the fact that these people are disabled. Even if they can cope in a special community and with subtitles and sign language, it is still an inability to perceive something critical in life.

Side: No
Peekaboo(704) Disputed
2 points

The fact that a deaf person cannot hear means they are less capable than other people in one aspect. That necessarily means that they can't be treated as "the same" as other people.

If a deaf person applies to be a telemarketer or a music reviewer, they will and should be rejected for the sole reason that they are deaf. If someone wants to talk to a deaf person, they will need to face them so their lips can be read, or speak clearly and loudly so they can be heard with hearing aids, or use sign language, for the sole reason that that person is deaf.

So by definition, all things being equal, a deaf person should not and cannot be treated as being equal to a person who isn't deaf.

Side: No
Brigitte(22) Disputed
1 point

I am completely deaf since I was born and always wear hearing aids on both of my ears, BUT because of hard work or practice I have been doing at how to speak orally and pick right-balance volume of my own voice without sign language at all since I was small until now may will make you open your mind a little bit more about this debate and whatever topic debate about deaf people. And oh actually the cochlear implants is not cool idea to do because it brings a risk for life.

Side: yes
aveskde(1935) Disputed
1 point

I am completely deaf since I was born and always wear hearing aids on both of my ears, BUT because of hard work or practice I have been doing at how to speak orally and pick right-balance volume of my own voice without sign language at all since I was small until now may will make you open your mind a little bit more about this debate and whatever topic debate about deaf people.

If you were treated equally to a hearing person, there would be no subtitles in movies, no sign language or assistance to those who cannot hear. The reason we provide these services is that the deaf cannot function well without them.

And oh actually the cochlear implants is not cool idea to do because it brings a risk for life.

I do not understand this statement.

Side: No
1 point

i take asl and i think that deaf people should be treated equal because yeah they may need extra attention but that dosent mean you treat them like junk i have a deaf aunt

Side: yes
1 point

obviously not. THEY CANT HEAR AS GOOD AS ADRIAN ROMERO. FOLLOW HIM @ADRIANISBLACK ON TWITTER EXCEPT ITS NOT IN CAPS OKAY YDG?

Side: No
1 point

No, simply because they cannot hear you :D

Side: No

No. They should get slightly better treatment .

Side: No
1 point

I am losing my hearing as we speak, I have been for the last few years. 100 % loss in the right and over 65% in my left and I am hearing aid assisted in my left???and I am 49 years old so I have experience on both sides.. And is my take on the subject. ..As a person with a hearing disability it is a hidden disability if I stood in line with you you wouldn't unless you attempted to converse with me, we might struggle to find our communication style but it can be done. There are laws and finances set aside to aid our ability to coexist with the hearing. Because we have a disability. I have no problem with the label disabled because I am a machine made by god that has May working parts if I have a defective part I cannot run as smooth as I was made to be therefore I am disabled.now as for treatment by other able body people are just plain rude selfish inconsiderate to those with the hearing disability.... I hate it when you tell me I have to pay attention .... Or "you are not going to repeat your self that would giving me special treatment."( really?!?!?! ) ... Would you tell a person in a wheelchair come on push that chair harder or tell a blind person once you gone this that you cannot you the cane again....but you will tell me to listen harder (for real I have been told this by educated teachers I am going to school to learn sign language) or "all you need is your brain to make you ears work right I say yes you have a brain again I say yes they then say then use your brain you can hear if you want to.". They wouldn't tell a amputee to think legs and you will be legs. If I didn't hear or understand something I will ask for a repeat this could save my life or inform me of a change in travel plans. Or harmful weather is coming and you need to get to safety... Oh and while on the subject I am losing my hearing UNTIL then do not put in a a world of no sounds or expect me to be utterly silent I want to hear everything I can before I am unable to so please talk to me, don't shut me out I still want to have human connections so to get to the end here ...I have learned since beginning to lose my hearing the the human race is very very very very very very very mean and selfish. yes as disabled person we do have a need for be treated special for certain reasons for the rest we can be treated just like the rest of you with kindness and love and consideration...

Side: No
0 points

I know most deaf people and many hearing people think that the deaf should be treated normally as hearing people, but it will be extremely hard for them to thrive in a complicated world that all hearing people face, especially when the ability to hear is VERY important.

Side: No
trdenham1(1) Disputed
4 points

You don't realize that Deaf people CAN thrive in this world, and they do!!! It is NOT extremely hard for them! The ability to hear is NOT the only way to live, they have eyes. Seeing is way more important than hearing. Why don't you try just plugging your ears, to the point of not hearing at all for one day and see. They're not missing out at all.

Side: yes
1 point

Look around you first, man.. There is no 100% perfect as you think.. It also doesn't tell us who should be the "leader" of this world, man.. And oh hey, what do you think and feel for the parents who have big dreams and hope for their own deaf child(ren)?? We all should think about it before judging that the deaf people should be treated equally with hearing people. Remember, our tongue in words can be too sharp like knife.

Side: No
-2 points
Derek Troy(2) Disputed
4 points

Yes, this person is retarded if he cannot treat deaf people equally. I am glad he is banned.

Side: yes
3 points

Cheers!!!! I'm in total agreement with you! Thank you!!!!! He has no clue, that's sad.

Side: yes
applepie(9) Disputed
4 points

whoa who do you think you are if you were deaf how would you fell

Side: yes