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Debate Score:51
Arguments:42
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Do celebrities deserve as much money as they make per movie or episode or song?

Why is that a movie star deserves 5 million dollars to make a movie that took 4 months of hectic acting, a sitcom star deserves 1 million per episode (which typically is 1 million per week or 2), and/or a singer deserves 15 million for producing a 12 track album? BUT, someone who works their ass off with 6 years of school and training and been working their career for 5 years or more, is lucky if they get even 500,000 a year? So, really, do celebrities deserve so much money just because they're a celebrity and doing something that comes somewhat easy to them and usually required very little training but lots of pushing? Why don't they have to go through mandatory 4 years of college for a BA, then get paid a salary too?

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Side Score: 23
2 points

People sometimes complain about the athletes as well. But I look at it from the perspective of how much the owners of a team or movie make from the athletes or actors. I think taking that into consideration it's fair.

Side: yes
1 point

Oh ya... so, ya mean, even if an athlete signs a 5 million contract for 4 years, parts of the money goes towards the owner and stuff? Do they even get taxes taken out too?

Side: yes
1 point

part of the actors or athletes pay doesn't go to the owners.

but the owners of a movie or sports team get money from ticket sales, merchandizing, tv ads, etc.

so say you're making a movie, and you want tom hanks, well that's going to cost like 10 million.

but then the movie is sure to make hundreds of millions because he's a recongnized actor, and people go and see his movies.

say you don't want to pay tom hanks 10 million, and you just have no name actors.

then there is no guarantee the movie will make anything.

While tom hanks makes 10 million, and that seems like a lot,

Paramount or whatever is going to make probably half a billion dollars over a number of years.

So then, the 10 million doesn't sound so big anymore.

Side: yes
2 points

In my opinion they deserve every cent they make. Unless you've been in their shoes, you have no clue how hard they've worked rehearsing their lines, how much they've been pushed around by producers and directors, and how much they have suffered in their personal life. Almost every celebrity who is even remotely famous has been attacked publicly on the internet either through forums or articles and networking websites (ahem, twitter). How much do you think you should make if your reputation is being put on the line like that? No amount of money can change the way people think about them and talk about them publicly.

Side: Yes
1 point

Haw haw, I laugh at you and all others who had to go through 4 years of boring BA degree for a job that only pays 500,000$ a year. That part of the system was screwed up to begin with, yet you folks did not realize it and went with it. That is your result!

Side: yes
2 points

Haw Haw...I wouldn't expect to be paid that much right out of college...Hee Haw!!!

Side: yes

Why not? Would you turn it down? I wouldn't if I had a talent I could turn into money! Many people make more money than we can comprehend but that's OK. They also give back, which is phenomenal to me. Let them make it...I'm not so someone should! I've known actors to not take a dime for a role they wanted very badly but couldn't get or the producers couldn't come up with the nickels to pay him/her.

Side: yes
1 point

If you dont disperse it out to the actors or what ever, than the director and producer get way more money than they already do. That's even more screwed up.

Side: yes
1 point

You have to see the celebrity as merely the face of the bigger company. Think of their name as the name of a company, not the name of a person, just like coca cola or MacDonald's. When the studios hire Brad Pitt, they are not hiring just the actor whose face we have come to know, they are hiring the company that is called "Brad Pitt" and the business/clientele (audience) that the company brings. The 20 million that "Brad Pitt" gets, is not all for the actor of that company. He has to pay his entourage, make up artists, publicists, agent, manager, advertiser, and a whole army of people who work for the "Brad Pitt" company.

In other words, no one is paid millions just for their acting skills, otherwise all actors would be paid millions. The only ones that make that kind of money are the ones that have built a business around their name and have loads of customers who go to see them. They also make good use of technology and manage to produce a product (movie) once, and then sell it over and over. Much like Sony produces a television and sells millions of copies of it. Think of Brad Pitt as Sony.

So no, I don't think there is anything unfair about it. Everybody could do something similar in their field of work. A teacher for example could make DVDs with educational material and by establishing a good name for themselves, could sell multiple copies of them and make millions. Not by teaching, but by doing business.

Side: yes
1 point

YES!

When you think that doctors, fireamen, policemen and teachers do a very important job, but they don't get paid as much, it seems unfair. The celebrities get their money from people liking their music, or acting. They don't just get the money for being in a movie. If they don't work hard and people dont like it, than they dont get the money. It is fair.

Side: yes
1 point

If you look at it realistically, celebrities are a commodity. And they are being distributed to millions of people. If we think of it as a per-unit price, then it doesn't seem exorbitant.

Side: yes
1 point

really i agree with this thanks.Oh ya... so, ya mean, even if an athlete signs a 5 million contract for 4 years, parts of the money goes towards the owner and stuff? Do they even get taxes taken out too?

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Side: yes
1 point

If there is a market for movies and we all know how big it is of course they should get paid according to the market. I do not understand why someone should be taxed more than others just because they know how to do something better than the next guy. We live in America where anyone can have the opportunity to do something great.

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Side: yes
1 point

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Side: yes
1 point

This is one of those "don't hate the player, hate the game" scenarios. I, personally, think that what they make for essentially entertaining us is pretty ludicrous. I can think of several careers that make far less but are more deserving of such profits. But...

In a market economy, wages are essentially determined the same way prices for products are. The wages hit a happy medium where the employer pays as much as he is willing to pay, the employee makes at least as much as they are willing to make. Both parties get the best out of it that they could. And the reason the employers are willing to pay such high salaries to entertainers is because they stand to make quite a bit more for their investment. The amount to be made by them is mostly determined by supply and demand, like any other product, so it is basically us fixing their salary. If an actor can get away with charging 10 million or so for a single movie, then it is really the movie going public who has convinced the producer that the actor is worth it.

Not exactly my favorite aspect of economics, but it is as fair as any aspect of capitalism.

Side: yes
1 point

they have maken great efforts so as to get the achievements nowadays.pehaps,you just notice the bright feathers and outlook and neglect the pain behind the appearance.

Side: Yes
1 point

They do! Do you know why? Because the industry is paying them that much. Honestly, if they're worth it to them, and they're willing to pay them that much, then more power to those actors. They figured something out the rest of us didn't.

Side: Yes
1 point

Sure. Being enormously famous is probably severely handicapping. You can't go here, you can't go there. You are probably wary of anyone you meet. You have to deal with all the bad things about celebrity (tabloids, harassment, etc.) indefinitely as long as you live in the public world. Maybe celebrities get all that money in order to build their own little private worlds. For instance, they can have houses in France where there are stricter privacy laws (like Johnny Depp) or buy their own tropical island (like Johnny Depp).

Also, there's a lot of money in entertainment. For instance, if films make that much money, and actors statistically increase profits dramatically, then they sure deserve a hefty slice and especially since they're dealing with all the shit mentioned above.

What do you think?

Side: Yes
1 point

The amount of money celebrities make depends on how much people are willing to spend to see that person on screen or hear that person sing. Tom cruise did not start out making 25 million dollars a film. His popularity rose and pretty soon people were going to see a movie because Tom Cruise was in it not because it was cinematic genius. If a movie makes 500 million it wouldn't be fair to the person who brought in that 500 million to get 500 thousand dollars from it which is .001 percent of what that movie made which compared to the starting amount is basically nothing compared to it. It may still be alot of money but put yourself in the actors shoes. If you had a big paycheck shoved in your face would you really say sorry thats too much. If you wouldn't refuse alot of money than you shouldn't be hating celebrities just because that bring in bank for something that they love.Besides I think people forget how boring and useless our lives would be without any music or TV. Doctors, Lawyers etc. keep us living but entertainment makes life worth living for. Without it we are just zombies waiting to grow up, get a job, support ourselves (for what if life is boring and unworthy of living). If people truly have a problem with how much celebrities make, maybe they should stop paying so much to see them. Oh wait. . . that will never happen because people love it too much.

Side: Yes
2 points

Also no, 'cause some people are really effient, yet they get paid the same money as someone who is lazy and not doing anything, that is just plain screwed-up-ness.

Side: No

Most definitely not. Give the huge sums of money to the people who make comfortable everyday living possible, who do the jobs that nobody else wants to do. For example, I'm sure that Mike Rowe of "Dirty Jobs" makes ridiculous amounts of money per show; how much money do the people make who actually do these dirty jobs every day?

Side: No
Argento(512) Disputed
2 points

Give the huge sums of money to the people who make comfortable everyday living possible, who do the jobs that nobody else wants to do.

The celebrities are not paid by the government or the tax payer you know. They are not taking money that would otherwise go to low paid jobs.

This is capitalism and there is nothing wrong with someone being successful through private business. Why is that so wrong???? I know a lot of people are jealous or bitter but that doesn't make someone else's success wrong.

A lot of them do a lot of charity work as well, some people say its too little, but in theory they don't have to give nothing to anyone.

Different jobs provide different rewards and require different sacrifices. Its up to the individual to sort out what they want to do, its a free world.

Side: yes
2 points

Celebrities do not deserve to make anything, I do not deserve to make any thing but I work hard and if the boss wishes to give me a raise I will gladly except it what I will not do is begrudge any other person for succeeding, congratulations to them all!

Side: No
1 point

why should they be paid sooooo much

i mean i don't have a prob but paying someone so much for just crying and laughing in front of the camera is not acceptable

Side: No
Argento(512) Disputed
2 points

They are not paid millions because of their acting skills, they are paid millions because they can guarantee a certain number of people who will pay to watch the film.

Take the last Die Hard film for example. Do you think anybody would go watch it if Bruce Willis was not in it? But the studio hires him, gives him 20 million, and he brings a few hundred million fans to the theatres, thus making the producer a few hundred million bucks.

Now you tell me he is not worth the 20 million he demands...

Side: yes
1 point

Haha. Ya, I do think they get paid so ridiculously much because it's just the way the stupid entertainment industry works and it's as if they actually own the world of business and it blows. I mean, being an actor vs a surgeon and the actor can make 2x or more as the surgeon, who's doing something more worthy. However, I do understand the concept of acting and it's not that easy a thing. It comes naturally to some people, but that's a small portion, lots do train a lot for it, and even still, lots of actors still suck as you'll notice in so many movies and stuff. Have you seen the show Lie to Me? It's a perfect example of how much work it takes to be an actor because they actually have to work hard to change their natural body language as who they are into who they're to become. That makes sense? But 'eh. They're still ridiculously overpaid. But I guess it's our countries, and the world's, fault for that since we feed their paychecks by going to the movies and crap.

Side: No
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1 point

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Side: Yes
1 point

I think the fact is that they earn too much money for what they do, especially considering how little talent most of them have in either industry and it has become so plastic and manufactured now that it's all just boring. what's sad is that modern society has produced such an apathetic brain dead generation who are more interested in following celebrity gossip than focusing on deeper issues troubling the world and how they can make a contribution or change things in some positive way. Having said that what is good about most celebrities today is that they often do use their fame and wealth to try and make some contribution to charities or raise an awareness about global issues which are important to them - which is, I guess, more than most of us can say.

Side: No
1 point

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Side: No

They should be taxed to the point where they become conservatives ;)

Side: No
1 point

It is just ridiculos how they get paid millions for doing a naked pose for a magasine.

Meanwhile doctors and nurses are suffering because of the stress they go through trying to save someones life. ITS JUST RIDICULOUS!

Side: No
deee(29) Disputed
1 point

.exactlyyy, ivee got to say that the job they do is the most easyest in the world&they;get payed the mosttt.

Side: yes
EG199888(3) Disputed
1 point

Actually it's not the easiest. :) :) :) :) :) :):) :) :) :) :) :)

Side: No
1 point

Celebrities make WAY too much money. They don't need to go to college for it, and nearly anyone can go to "acting school" and pull some faces in front of a camera. They didn't go to college for years and study like some people that hardly get by on life.

Side: No
EG199888(3) Disputed
1 point

Actually they do need to go to college. Most Actors and Actress' don't just get very lucky and get a huge role in a new upcoming film. I mean, some have and do, but rarely. Most do go to college and make their way up, just like everyone else trying to find a decent job or trying to get a degree in any field of work. Also, not a lot of people can go to acting school. A lot of people don't have the chance to get into, let alone study to make their way to where they want to be. And, it's not as easy as you think being filmed on camera. I thought it was really easy. From going to acting in school in drama class I thought it would be easy but when it came to being put on camera for an exam, for another class, it turned out to be really nerve racking. Plus, people that want to be on camera, once again, don't have the opportunities they deserve. So overall, most actors and actress' do go to college, they do work hard for what they want, and they do deserve the money they make!

Side: Yes
1 point

.they shouldnt get payed that much because there is people out there who work so hard&dont;gett any where as near as them but thry go out to work&do;what they lovee doing (theirr hobbiee)& get payedd thousandsss of poundsss, itss nott rightt. anyonee could do their job its soo fuckingg easyyy.

Side: No
1 point

They take birth vid a bright future as their parents are already stars,even if they dont know A of acting they make a bullshit movie and are highly paid too.Thats why our india is so poor.

Side: No
1 point

!! no they shouldn't deserve that much for kicking a ballaround

Side: No
1 point

I would say I am in between. I think that a few million is okay, but 30 or 40 million, not so much. Look at teachers who are earning 30,000 or 40,000 and celebritities are making 30 or 40 million sometimes. That seems very unbalanced to me. Yes, a few million is okay because they do work hard and its not as easy as it may seem. But when you have people who are struggling to get by and sometimes go without a meal because they simply can't afford it, it seems sad to think that there are people with so much extra money that they don't know what to do with it all.

Side: No

They don't deserve it but their agents demand it. That's Hollywood!

Side: No
1 point

Even if actors and athletes do entertain us, why do they need to be payed so much to entertain us? Actors make millions for saying a few words in front of a camera. Athletes make more than the President per year. Why is that fair? It's not. Policemen, and firemen. Why do they not get payed so much? But, the thing is, no one deserves that much. Who NEEDS $250 million per year. People may want it, but they don't need it. Even if I had that much money, I would donate it to multiple charities. Celebrities may do that, but how much do they really donate? And was it really their idea? Or was it their agents? And yes, their are some celebrities that are truly good people. But, think. Teenagers and kids under 16 are making more than adults. Peyton List has a net worth of about $7 million. And she barely an adult. I mean no offence but, does she deserve it? My opinion, no. None of the celebrities need it.

Side: No